Topic: Dunlavy (Read 13550 times)

Oldfart · « **on:** June 12, 2008, 07:38:31 PM »

Hello everyone,
anyone here knows the difference between
IV and IVa? Anyone uses the IV? And if so, care to share your thoughts on these?

For a smallish room (22' x 14' x 8'), could the III augmented with a sub work as a mastering monitor?

As always, thank in advance for your replies,

Oldfart

jdg · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2008, 07:57:47 PM »

my room is about the same size as yours (21x15x9)
i have IIIs with a sub, and its pretty good. Smile

when i bought them, IVs and IVas where twice as much.

now, IVs and IVas are cheeper then i paid for my IIIs. ouch.

the IIIs go remarking low for being so "small"
but the sub does help fill the 20-30 hz area nicely.

more importantly, the amp made the biggest diff.
having gone to a hypex UcD400 based amp from a bryston 4b was like night and day.

all that said.. get the IVas u'll be happier that you did.

these damned speakers are so room/position sensitive, and in conjunction with the pains of sub setup.... the few extra bones to not have to setup subs would be worth it in my book.

TotalSonic · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2008, 08:17:24 PM »

I've heard the Dunlavy III's in a good sized acoustically balanced room without a sub and they sounded really nice there. Maybe a sub with them would have filled out the lowest octave a little and helped impress clients during attended sessions but I think there was definitely enough info in the low end that you could do good mastering with them without a sub.

The Dunlavy Aletha's also have been used in mastering to good effect.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

Andrew Hamilton · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2008, 09:12:21 PM »

Maybe Dave Davis can speak to the iii's. He also has used SC-IV/As for 2-channel work. I'm with Alan Silverman who felt that the Alethas needed some enhancing to translate for clients. Heck, even the SC-Vs are too shrill for some inexperienced listeners who haven't yet heard how bad most compact disc recordings really sound! Crying or Very Sad

Asbestos union suit (and drop seat) snuggly on.

Andrew

Jerry Tubb · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2008, 09:24:06 PM »

Oldfart wrote on Thu, 12 June 2008 18:38

anyone here knows the difference between IV and IVa?

On the IV/A the woofers were upgraded, which resulted in more LF extension, he may have tweaked the crossover as well.

Amazing how affordable Dunlavy monitors are these days, check AudioGon.

I think Ed Littman uses the 3's or the 3A's.

Many 4 and 4A's in use (as well as Duntechs).

Certainly love mine.

I'd like a set of 3A's to upgrade my surround setup, right now the rears and the ctr are Paradigms... nice but not Dunlavy.

JT

Oldfart · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2008, 09:36:20 PM »

WOW

thanks for all the info guys.

One of the negative comments I'm getting from the IIIs elsehwere, is the fact that when driven hard they tend to compress. Any truth to this?

I've also located a pair of Duntech Marquis. I may start another thread about those, but I'll by doing a search 1st.

Thanks again everyone.

Oldfart

Dave Davis · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2008, 07:55:38 AM »

Basically in a small-mid sized room, IVa's will rock your world without a sub, while the IVs need some help. Once you add the "help" (subs) you give up some of the design benefits (or at least intentions) associated with Dunlavys. The Dunlavy subs (basically V cabs with no tweets) appeared primarily as a response to 5.1, which spec'd a dedicated LFE, not as a band-aid for the mains.

IV's are just fine in smallish rooms that can't support octave 1 - pumping a lot of bass into tiny spaces is kind of pointless as the benefit lands outside the room. Wink

-d-

Matt_G · « **Reply #7 on:** June 13, 2008, 09:27:11 AM »

Oldfart wrote on Fri, 13 June 2008 11:36

I've also located a pair of Duntech Marquis. I may start another thread about those, but I'll by doing a search 1st.

If the Marquis drivers are in excellent condition than it is definitely worth considering them for mastering. I own a set of the C4000 Marquis & had all the drivers replaced & the crossovers modified at Duntech. The results are nothing short of spectacular. I'm running them with stereo DD12 subs from 45Hz down but the midrange, detail & imaging is incredible. They measured

Ed Littman · « **Reply #8 on:** June 13, 2008, 04:26:04 PM »

Jerry Tubb wrote on Thu, 12 June 2008 21:24

I think Ed Littman uses the 3's or the 3A's.

Many 4 and 4A's in use (as well as Duntechs).

Certainly love mine.

I'd like a set of 3A's to upgrade my surround setup, right now the rears and the ctr are Paradigms... nice but not Dunlavy.

JT

I have the 3a's in a room thats 22x19
I think they fit just right with no sub.
Ed

Ed Littman · « **Reply #9 on:** June 13, 2008, 04:28:42 PM »

Oldfart wrote on Thu, 12 June 2008 21:36

WOW

thanks for all the info guys.

One of the negative comments I'm getting from the IIIs elsehwere, is the fact that when driven hard they tend to compress. Any truth to this?

Oldfart

Don't know about the 3's but the 3a's like to get hit & they sound great.
Ed

tom eaton · « **Reply #10 on:** June 13, 2008, 11:15:36 PM »

I have IVa here and love them. Have never heard any kind of speaker compression from them... bass is phenomenal...obviously room dependent. My CR is roughly 15x20. I need to be at least seven feet away from them to feel them "come together."

Sweet spot is approximately one head width.

A pretty good explanation of differences between the IV and IVa is here:

http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/166/

-tom

Oldfart · « **Reply #11 on:** June 17, 2008, 08:24:36 PM »

Matt_G wrote on Fri, 13 June 2008 09:27

Oldfart wrote on Fri, 13 June 2008 11:36

I've also located a pair of Duntech Marquis. I may start another thread about those, but I'll by doing a search 1st.

If the Marquis drivers are in excellent condition than it is definitely worth considering them for mastering. I own a set of the C4000 Marquis & had all the drivers replaced & the crossovers modified at Duntech. The results are nothing short of spectacular. I'm running them with stereo DD12 subs from 45Hz down but the midrange, detail & imaging is incredible. They measured

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Re: Dunlavy

« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2008, 09:44:51 AM »

Oldfart wrote on Wed, 18 June 2008 10:24

Matt_G wrote on Fri, 13 June 2008 09:27

Oldfart wrote on Fri, 13 June 2008 11:36

I've also located a pair of Duntech Marquis. I may start another thread about those, but I'll by doing a search 1st.

If the Marquis drivers are in excellent condition than it is definitely worth considering them for mastering. I own a set of the C4000 Marquis & had all the drivers replaced & the crossovers modified at Duntech. The results are nothing short of spectacular. I'm running them with stereo DD12 subs from 45Hz down but the midrange, detail & imaging is incredible. They measured

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