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Electric Warrior

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Re: buss compression
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2008, 08:26:01 am »

Adam Miller wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 14:17

Not that I want to derail this topic, but if the gain reduction metering on Js mixbuss comp reads 1-3 dB, then he's reducing the dynamic range of his music by....

...take a wild guess. The metering ballistics of the SSL comp are another matter, but let's assume it gives a pretty accurate representation of what's going on.



1-3 dB.
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j.hall

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Re: buss compression
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2008, 11:21:49 pm »

beau wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 10:26

jay, do you find that the 4:1 sounds smoother than the 2:1 on your ssl comp? i am using the al smart c2 and prefer 2:1 for the same reason you prefer the 4:1 i love compression, and for some reason on the c2, the 2:1 sounds more aggressive than the 4:1  

usually medium attack straight up at 1 i believe, with fastest release.  1-3 db of compression is all i can handle on the 2 bus, before mastering guys get mad at me.

peace

beau



i'm not completely sure, but to my ears, 2:1 is softer.  not as aggressive, and i don't like it as much.

even when i get the same GR levels.
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Jason Livermore

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Re: buss compression
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2008, 09:08:03 pm »

Andy Wallace set his at 4:1

attack 1 ms
auto release.

3-6 db of gain reduction

Works good for me too.

Got the Shadow Hills mastering comp  a month back, so I'm trying all kinds of new stuff!


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j.hall

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Re: buss compression
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2008, 03:52:34 pm »

i'd love to hear your thoughts on the shadow hill when you've gotten comfy with it.

doesn't take much to get 6dB of GR with the .1 attack time.  auto release with that attack probably works great.

slower attacks with auto release just doesn't do it for me.  feels really choked and small.
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Re: buss compression
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2008, 02:33:47 pm »

The best advise I ever got regarding the so called 2 bus compression.  "Remember that the compressor is working even if the meter is not moving".
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Re: buss compression
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2008, 09:29:06 pm »

dguidry wrote on Fri, 23 May 2008 13:33

The best advise I ever got regarding the so called 2 bus compression.  "Remember that the compressor is working even if the meter is not moving".


care to explain?
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Re: buss compression
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2008, 04:18:45 pm »

in the analog world, meter balistics are often slow, to show you the "average" not the entire peak.

different meters vary.....
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Re: buss compression
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2008, 12:58:23 pm »

grant richard wrote on Fri, 23 May 2008 20:29

dguidry wrote on Fri, 23 May 2008 13:33

The best advise I ever got regarding the so called 2 bus compression.  "Remember that the compressor is working even if the meter is not moving".


care to explain?

I don't use any outboard gear at all so my experience with with plug ins only, but the same principal should apply.

I use Smack as a stereo compressor after my eq.  I adjust the parameters as follows: ratio 2:1, warm, attack 9.9 (slowest is 10), release .10 (fastest is 0).  I adjust input to where the needle barely moves at the loudest point in the song then I back it off ever so slightly so that it never moves.  The needle indicates nothing is happening but your ears will hear the compressor working.

My mastering chain in Pro Tools 7.1 is:  Multimono dig eq7, multimono Smack, multimono Waves L-16, Benchmark DAC.

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Re: buss compression
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2008, 11:56:19 am »

J-Texas wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12

4 to 1

4 times 3dB of reduction = 12db of dynamics you're sucking up!


License to use a compressor: Revoked.

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Re: buss compression
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2008, 01:42:48 pm »

Daniel Farris wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 10:56

J-Texas wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 06:12

4 to 1

4 times 3dB of reduction = 12db of dynamics you're sucking up!


License to use a compressor: Revoked.

DF




Laughing  ... but I really need to use one today!
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Re: buss compression
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2008, 02:04:43 pm »

J-Texas wrote on Fri, 06 June 2008 12:42




Laughing  ... but I really need to use one today!


sorry, the compressor police have spoken.


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Re: buss compression
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2008, 07:30:04 pm »

Hpw is that Shadow hills?

I tried the Atomic Squeeze Box on two mix.  Nerha reccomended it.  I love it.

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Re: buss compression
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2008, 09:27:44 pm »

The Shadow Hills has replaced the SSL master comp in our 6000E.  The VCA section behaves much the same, but it is much clearer and bigger at the same time. The different trannies are cool also, but I mostly have been using Iron for mixing into.  The Iron setting doesn't work as well if you don't mix into it from the start, as it is darker and has more  tranny glue/slowness.  The side chain is useful also in letting the kick/bass not suck down the whole mix..  Opto only needs to be hit very very lightly, as it will do some serious transient reduction if hit more than 1-2db.  So far so good!


Jason



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j.hall

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Re: buss compression
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2008, 09:29:48 pm »

cool.

thanks for update.  i've wanted to play around with one of those for a while.
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Re: buss compression
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2008, 11:06:45 am »

The InnerTube ASB is amazing....

That is all I can say...
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