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[wwittman]

MDM, wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 04:14

not on the first album. and the compressor on the first album was probably an altec.

Brian Kehew wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 08:52

As Glyn Johns did the first album, at Olympic, there is a strong likelyhood that it was either Altec (modified) or PYE compressor used.

Jimmy said SPECIFICALLY (in a private conversation) it was a borrowed  J200 and through the Ba6a
He was emphatic that he had it for the first record.


And after some detective work comparisons, I'm convinced that J200  was the mid-60's Townshend type, with the tune-a-matic bridge as well

that just has THAT sound.

(hence, that's what's in the picture)

[wwittman]

Silvertone wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 08:12

William, Is Eddie producing this one as well or are you?  He played the last CD for us at the Helios listening event, sounded good.

I redid a good bit of two tracks on that record and mixed them.
I actually don't think Eddie was terribly pleased about it. (and no doubt neglected to mention it)

He's not involved in this current project.

[Brian Kehew]

Reading between the lines.... hmmm.

[Silvertone]

and between the lines...

[MDM,]

wwittman wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 03:48

MDM, wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 04:14 not on the first album. and the compressor on the first album was probably an altec. Brian Kehew wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 08:52 As Glyn Johns did the first album, at Olympic, there is a strong likelyhood that it was either Altec (modified) or PYE compressor used. Jimmy said SPECIFICALLY (in a private conversation) it was a borrowed  J200 and through the Ba6a He was emphatic that he had it for the first record. And after some detective work comparisons, I'm convinced that J200  was the mid-60's Townshend type, with the tune-a-matic bridge as well that just has THAT sound. (hence, that's what's in the picture)

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=s6224XWjNyU

I think this is the guitar

J200 with electric guitar strings.

he actually mentioned it was a 50's model years ago..

what year is the guitar in the video? I see screws...

as far as the BA6a, Page never tells the whole story... although he may very well have had a ba6a by then

I believe that the midrange is more typical of the altec/176 type circuit.

when he was touring the states, it is probable that he picked up BA6A's cheap from the numerous radio stations which were getting rid of them... I don't think they were available in britain in 1968.

[wwittman]

Fortunately, for me, I didn't have to do the detective work on the compressor, when I was told unequivocally what it WAS.


a 50's J200 would NOT have the tune-a-matic

the guitar on LZ I was borrowed from a producer.

[Bryson]

wwittman wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 11:34

the guitar on LZ I was borrowed from a producer.

Funny; Jeff Beck also borrowed a producer's (Mickey Most) acoustic for his Truth lp (Greensleeves).

[Brian Kehew]

wwittman wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 10:34

Fortunately, for me, I didn't have to do the detective work on the compressor, when I was told unequivocally what it WAS.

BEWARE firsthand information! Very, very dangerous... always check the facts and likelihoods.

[wwittman]

in this case Brian it is sonically corroborated.

we were trying, for example, a multitude of could have been; guitars trying to get that sound when we had the conversation and 'bang', there it was.

in any case.
I want it to sound right.
there are no extra points for using the exact same gear; except as it serves getting the sound right.

for example, I'm recording with a Neve.

[archtop]

wwittman wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 18:20

for example, I'm recording with a Neve.

I didn't know they made recorders

[wwittman]

the word "with" is not a synonym for "on"

for instance, I was WITH JJ last time I was in LA...

[MagnetoSound]

William, I don't think you entirely sidestepped the risk of misinterpretation with that one.  

[MDM,]

wwittman wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 13:34

Fortunately, for me, I didn't have to do the detective work on the compressor, when I was told unequivocally what it WAS. a 50's J200 would NOT have the tune-a-matic the guitar on LZ I was borrowed from a producer.

yes, the guitar on the video has the porcelain bridge.. it is indeed a 60's guitar ... hence 'the screws'

[wwittman]

Bryson wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 17:23

wwittman wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 11:34 the guitar on LZ I was borrowed from a producer. Funny; Jeff Beck also borrowed a producer's (Mickey Most) acoustic for his Truth lp (Greensleeves).

That's the one