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Klaus Heyne

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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2008, 02:07:11 PM »
Sorry to hear. That kind of (non) arrangement is unusual in our industry, where not only Guitar Center Pro, or Sweetwater etc. but vintage mic equipment brokers will honor a no-charge, money back try-out warranty on even their most expensive mics.

If you are already familiar with the sound of the TLM 150s, you will not be disappointed with the TLM50s.
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2009, 12:12:46 AM »
I think I found my answer!
I'm not quite willing to go public yet. Still need a little more testing. But when I am, I'll upload some great A/B/C comparisons.
That's all for now,
Alan
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2009, 12:21:39 AM »
Alan,

I'm eager to hear what you've found/learned.

Barry

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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2009, 05:12:58 PM »
Do tell, Hollywood mang!
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2009, 12:16:23 AM »
Simon Eadon found (and I can corroborate) that Schoeps MK2S with balls work VERY well in the D-tree.

Simon was in the middle of a Beethoven Symphony series when Decca bellied up and the M50s were withdrawn. The client wanted to continue so Simon switched to the Schoeps and in his words, "no one seemed to notice."

Either they were all lead-ears, OR.....

Rich
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2009, 06:52:53 AM »
Rich wrote:"The client wanted to continue so Simon switched to the Schoeps and in his words, "no one seemed to notice." "

I was in a similar situation, one Neumann TLM50s (nickel diaphragm) bellied up, and I had no other choice than bringing in the B&K4003 with spheres. .... and no one seemed to have noticed either.
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2009, 06:42:33 AM »
For what is worth, but I had a similar situation for my last filmmusic scoring that I recorded (die wilden h
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Eric H.

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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2009, 08:33:39 PM »
Alan Meyerson wrote on Tue, 06 January 2009 05:12

I think I found my answer!
I'm not quite willing to go public yet. Still need a little more testing. But when I am, I'll upload some great A/B/C comparisons.
That's all for now,
Alan

Some 3 months later and the answer is.....?
I'm still very curious about that subject.
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2009, 02:34:23 PM »
Daniel- which size ball did you use on the 4006?
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #69 on: March 21, 2009, 11:56:52 AM »
wildplum wrote on Thu, 19 March 2009 18:34

Daniel- which size ball did you use on the 4006?


I will check on Monday...

Daniel
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2009, 03:30:31 PM »
The only sphere diameter giving similar specs as the M50, is the 5cm one. Check the graphs in the paper DPA has published.

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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2009, 05:14:11 PM »
That's absolutely correct.

Barry
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2009, 08:35:44 AM »
Daniel_Dettwiler wrote on Sat, 21 March 2009 15:56

wildplum wrote on Thu, 19 March 2009 18:34

Daniel- which size ball did you use on the 4006?


I will check on Monday...

Schallfeldnebel:      
The only sphere diameter giving similar specs as the M50, is the 5cm one. Check the graphs in the paper DPA has published.

Daniel


Aha. 5 cm are mine...

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Klaus Heyne

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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2009, 08:09:14 PM »
Schallfeldnebel wrote on Sun, 22 March 2009 12:30

The only sphere diameter giving similar specs as the M50, is the 5cm one. Check the graphs in the paper DPA has published.


Hard to believe, as the ball in the M50 is exactly 40mm
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Re: Alternatives To Neumann M150's For DECCA Tree?
« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2009, 10:21:04 PM »
The M150 uses a titanium diaphragm?
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