R/E/P Community

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: instrument to synth plug?  (Read 2397 times)

j.hall

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3787
instrument to synth plug?
« on: March 11, 2008, 03:51:51 PM »

do any of you guys know a cool plug in (or even hardware) that can take line level signals (mainly guitars and bass guitars) and make them sound like synth pads.

i have Sound Toys Filter Freak.  which i use quite often, but it isn't really doing this task well.

does other things great.
Logged

NelsonL

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1233
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2008, 08:38:11 PM »

Volume swells> memory man> Boss DD3> Whammy pedal set to pitch shift up an octave, add filters to taste.

You have to get the feedback and delay lengths cascading to create a sort of fake sustain, then the pitchshift makes it sound much less guitar like.

At least that's the way it was explained to me by some guys who are known for this sorta thing, I lack the whammy pedal to try it... big money, no whammies.
Logged

j.hall

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3787
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2008, 10:57:26 PM »

NelsonL wrote on Tue, 11 March 2008 19:38

big money, no whammies.


i'm so glad some one else on this planet uses that joke.......i feel vindicated.........

really though, i have get all that hardware?  there has to be a plug or a single box that can do this easily.
Logged

NelsonL

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1233
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2008, 11:42:31 PM »

I think it could be recreated with plugins, maybe melodyne for pitch shifting... sorry, no chords at least with my version.
Logged

Iain Graham

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 361
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 12:00:19 AM »

Would something in the Eventide bundle do this?

It's been a while since I was in front of the plugs, but it sounds like it might be along their line.

Failing that you could always get a MIDI pickup and track the MIDI as an option....if it will follow any playlist editing you happen to do....
Logged
Iain Graham

www . iain - graham . com

http://www.myspace.com/iain_graham

www . soundart . com

garret

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1012
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 12:13:22 AM »

Try a vocoder.  Use a synth or string pad of some kind, and drive it with the bass or guitars.

Works pretty well, and you can choose any pad sound you want.  I dunno if you have any software synth plugins.... most of them can create some juicy pads.

Can you use AU plugins?  Crystal is freeware and very good...
http://www.greenoak.com/crystal/download.html

Another thing I do sometimes is make a delay mash... play the notes of the tonic chord through a set of delays with various feedback levels and time settings... then record a few seconds that, and make it loopable (copy/paste with some crossfades).  

Sounds great with hammond organ, rhodes, or vibraphone... I bet you could use clean electric guitar too...

I used one of those delay mash loops as the intro to Alley Cats on my record...

http://www.worksongs.net/radio/?track=USLEX0800010.flv

Logged
tomorrow is already here - http://www.worksongs.net/

Gabriel F

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 215
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 12:20:59 AM »

you can try playing monophonic melodies and converting them to midi with melodyne. or the plug in cantor.


gabriel fonts.
Logged

Tomas Danko

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4733
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 07:13:28 AM »

Cycling' 74 "Pluggo" will do it all.

Granular synthesis plugins would go a long way together with your current filter plugin.

UAD-1 Nigel could do a lot of stuff to make it synthy.

The resonators in the Lexicon PCM-70 can do wonders, but it's fiddly.

Logged
http://www.danko.se/site-design/dankologo4s.gif
"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

GaryR47

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 60
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 11:01:47 PM »

If you use a windows based setup there is this:

Guitar Controlled Bass Synth

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=results&st=d&c= 354

I've tried it and it does work...........may not be what you are after, but the price is right!

Gary

marcel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1257
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2008, 10:19:16 AM »

J:

What about the Electro Harmonix Micro Synth pedals?  Or what about a 'vocoder' modulated with the instrument part instead of a voice (which is I think very similar to what the Electro Harmonix stuff does)?

Whoever mentioned Eventide, there are some patches in the Eclipse (and probably their other units) that will do this, but they take a lot of tweaking to get right...  Ring modulators, if set just so, will do this very well.  Never used their plugs, personally.

Best, Marcel
Logged
Best, Marcel

j.hall

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3787
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2008, 04:05:24 PM »

i'm looking for a plug so it can be a brainless recall.

the electro harmonix stuff is on the list though if i don't go with a plug.
Logged

SingSing

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 157
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2008, 05:57:50 PM »

j.hall wrote on Tue, 11 March 2008 15:51

do any of you guys know a cool plug in (or even hardware) that can take line level signals (mainly guitars and bass guitars) and make them sound like synth pads.

i have Sound Toys Filter Freak.  which i use quite often, but it isn't really doing this task well.

does other things great.


You already have FF, but maybe there are other filters that can get you going. Usually it's not the typical bread and butter FX that creates this but rather a combination of wacky stuff. There is a preset in NI Guitar Rig that makes a seriously BIG pad from just about anything. I'll have a look at it and see if it can be of any use to you.

All the best,

Stefan
SingSing
Logged

Gabriel F

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 215
Re: instrument to synth plug?
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2008, 12:04:47 AM »

some of the grm tools plug can do some synth things. but i still think the beeat way to do this is using melodyne to convert the melodies to midi and use what ever synth plug or sampler you like.

gabriel fonts.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
 

Site Hosted By Ashdown Technologies, Inc.

Page created in 0.073 seconds with 20 queries.