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Keyplayer

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DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« on: May 16, 2004, 11:06:17 PM »

I got no response from the Nuendo site (They are apparently in an uproar over a still disappointing 2.2 release). So I thought maybe someone here can explain this one for me.


I was tracking some background vocals yesterday. When I finished the session, I copied the files and stored them on an external drive, as I do at the end of every session.
When I re-opened my project something really strange (no, really, REALLY STRANGE) happened. The lead vocal was in 3 parts. That's correct. That was how I recorded it.
The breakdown is as follows:

Lead Vox 1 = Intro, verses 1 & 2, Chorus 1
Lead Vox 2 = Bridge, Solo, Several chorus fade
Lead Vox 3 = A couple of corrections on a final chorus.

The song starts playback (pay attention here). The wave file is SHOWING LEAD VOX 1. But the sound PLAYING IS LEAD VOX 2!!! WIERDER STILL, EVEN AFTER PASSING THE END OF THE WAVE FILE BLOCK, VOCALS WERE STILL PLAYING!!!

I checked everything to see if I was in some kind of loop, or I was playing another track by accident, or if there was some routing glitch. Everything was as it should be except the wrong part was playing from the correct part's image. So I went into the pool to check Lead Vox 1. Even in the pool it was PLAYING Lead Vox 2!

I freaked because I now thought I'd lost that lead vocal. But when I went back to the version before the BG Vocals were recorded, The track was still there just fine.

So I deleted the part from the pool, went to the audio folder and re-imported it. But now it was out of synch by 13 frames (???)!

I decided that the file was somehow corrupted, lined the vocal up by the 13 frame difference then just copied the file into a brand new project folder (It sure is a drag not being able to copy all the markers.). Things are working just fine now. But that was a first.

Has this ever happened to anyone else? Can anybody explain to me WHAT HAPPENED????

I was using Version 1.6.1 on a P3/933, 9652 card, no plugs of any kind on, no MIDI tracks and less than 20 audio tracks.
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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2004, 12:02:12 AM »

You're on N 1.6.1?  Sounds like an N2 bug that has already been fixed.  I'd try the Nuendo forum as everyone there will have more of an idea of what's going on.  If it's a known problem, I'm sure someone over there has seen it.

Could be it was just a random freaky occurance or a corrupt project file.

Nathan
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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2004, 12:37:23 AM »

Corrupted project file index indeed.

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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2004, 07:17:44 AM »

PookyNMR, Did you read the 1st line of my post?
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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2004, 09:08:44 PM »

Your session file is corrupt.

1) Immediately backup everything.
2) Do NOT experiment, save or modify the file before saving backups of everything.
3) Upgrade to the latest version of your DAW software.

Then either:

4a) Re-create the session from scratch in the new version of the software (low-risk)

or

4b) Re-load the session and hope the new version sorts it out (higher risk).  

Deleting/re-creating just the problem tracks is not a recommended option regardless of software version.

And one more thing: immediately backup everything.

--Erik
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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2004, 09:39:52 PM »

Every studio has a ghost. Perhaps you were being visited?
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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2004, 02:30:22 AM »

I've had a very similar experience with CubaseSX 1.6. The only thing to do was create a new project and import the files into it.

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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2004, 07:27:49 AM »

This may be a long shot, but here goes....

Your problem may be a result of error in the copying of data between harddrives. Although errors are rare they do occur.

You can prevent this from happening by packing the project data using a format that has error checking/correction, like rar or zip, before you do any copying.

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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2004, 08:40:53 AM »

This is an old bug that has to do with the relationship between the part editor and stacked takes.  It doesn't exist in 2.

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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2004, 08:43:04 AM »

robdarling@mail.com wrote on Thu, 20 May 2004 08:40

This is an old bug that has to do with the relationship between the part editor and stacked takes.  It doesn't exist in 2.




Keyplayer: So this has actually happened to you?
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Re: DAW Question: Has this ever happened to you?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2004, 11:06:55 AM »

My advice to you is to join the dark side and switch to a ProTools rig....hahaha(evil laughter)

jonny K
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