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[dwoz]

???

do tell.

dwoz

[bblackwood]

Ummmmmm

huh?

You mean this one? Seems like it's coming along nicely...

Or did you mean something else?

[archtop]

I think he means the one you are building


you know, the pretty one, with the expensive pots, the required expensive pot, to finish

[bblackwood]

Oh, the mastering console? Man, it was installed the first week of March. Here's a pic:

[archtop]

all I can say is



SCHWEET



do you love it ?


does it sound better ?

[OTR-jkl]

Cool box.

Am I seeing this right...?

You have rotary switches for each insert (1-6) to use for bypassing each piece (to see if you really want it in line or not). These are rotary switches because (I'm guessing here...) they are quieter and/or faster than toggle switches?

Also, could you explain the Process and Monitor switches?

[bblackwood]

OTR-jkl wrote on Thu, 20 May 2004 10:24

You have rotary switches for each insert (1-6) to use for bypassing each piece (to see if you really want it in line or not). These are rotary switches because (I'm guessing here...) they are quieter and/or faster than toggle switches?

These rotary switches (Shallcos) have a rather huge contact surface, much larger than a toggle...

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Also, could you explain the Process and Monitor switches?

Process switch selects what source feeds the processing chain, the monitor switch determines what you listen to - any of the 6 possible sources plus the output of the DAW.



archtop:
I do love it. I don't know that it sounds better than the Crane Song console, but it definitely has more flexibility, which is the reason I built it. I know it can't sound worse - a well implemented passive design cannot be surpassed in a fixed installation like this...

[Mixerman]

I'll wait for the plug-in.

Mixerman

[OTR-jkl]

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the monitor switch determines what you listen to - any of the 6 possible sources

Pre(-processing)?

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...plus the output of the DAW.

Playback or capture...?


You gonna market this box?

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I'll wait for the plug-in.

That's funny...

[bblackwood]

OTR-jkl wrote on Thu, 20 May 2004 11:09

Quote: the monitor switch determines what you listen to - any of the 6 possible sources Pre(-processing)?

Pre-processing for all sources except DAW, which is post, of course...

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Quote: ...plus the output of the DAW. Playback or capture...?

Either way. Whatever is coming out of the DAW...

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You gonna market this box?

Nope.

[OTR-jkl]

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...plus the output of the DAW. Playback or capture...? Either way. Whatever is coming out of the DAW...

I thought you were using 2 soundcards - 1 for playback & 1 for captured material. That's why I figured the DAW position was for either the original dig file (playback) or the post-processed, captured file... So, are the D1 & D2 selects for the original dig files (playback soundcard outs)?

[bblackwood]

OTR-jkl wrote on Thu, 20 May 2004 11:27

I thought you were using 2 soundcards - 1 for playback & 1 for captured material. That's why I figured the DAW position was for either the original dig file (playback) or the post-processed, captured file... So, are the D1 & D2 selects for the original dig files (playback soundcard outs)?

Sorry, misunderstood what you were asking. The DAW output is the output of workstation post-prcessing (mastered).

[MASSIVE Mastering]

Okay, okay...  I'll ask...

• How much were all the parts?
• Are you going to "mass" produce them?
• How much will you charge all your buddies here to put one together?
• Would you consider putting together a "kit" package and how much would such a package go for?

[bblackwood]

MASSIVE Mastering wrote on Thu, 20 May 2004 11:39

How much were all the parts?

Very reasonable, about $2500.

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Are you going to "mass" produce them?

Not really interested.

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How much will you charge all your buddies here to put one together?

Not really interested.

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Would you consider putting together a "kit" package and how much would such a package go for?

Not really interested.

The wiring diagram is easy:

[j.hall]

why don't you just post a parts list, minus the metal chasis, and engraving.....and let those interested track down the parts and build whatever they want?

just a thought.

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Mixerman, probably the plugin version will be released on TDM for Alsihad first -lol
Cool Gear, Brad!
Congratulations!

[dcollins]

j.hall wrote on Thu, 20 May 2004 12:07

why don't you just post a parts list, minus the metal chasis, and engraving.....and let those interested track down the parts and build whatever they want? just a thought.

The swtches are all Shallco.  The attenuator was built by Marchand electronics to a particular spec (2k5 bridged T Holco R's) the wire is PTFE coated silver-plated stranded.  Typical Mil-spec.  XLR's are Neutrik (Switchcraft are better, imo) and the box is a box.

Ask me how I know all this...

DC

[arimaka]

Dave

How do you have all this knowledge?
Please bring us out of the dark!

Brad,
Was there a big change in your monitor path?
I can't wait to send you some more stuff so it can go through your new console! Congrats! it looks amazing!

my .02 cents

Manuel Jimenez

[bblackwood]

arimaka wrote on Fri, 21 May 2004 21:00

Dave How do you have all this knowledge? Please bring us out of the dark!

It's basically DC's design. He told me how to do the various things (sharing a lot of experience based decisions in the process) and I incorporated them into the console as I needed them...

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Was there a big change in your monitor path?

Huge increase in flexibilty and speed. The chain sounds the same, and though it's easy to fool yourself, I'm pretty sure it's a little more open sounding...

[dcollins]

B-rad writes:

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It's basically DC's design. He told me how to do the various things (sharing a lot of experience based decisions in the process) and I incorporated them into the console as I needed them...

You could almost put design in quotes here as it was just suggesting components that I've used for many years, but in a slightly different configuration.  It's not very complicated, but I think my approach is proven to sound transparent, and be totally reliable.

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Huge increase in flexibilty and speed. The chain sounds the same, and though it's easy to fool yourself, I'm pretty sure it's a little more open sounding...

In fairness, leading mastering pundits have roundly rejected B-rad's passive monitoring approach, specifically on the grounds of _reduced_ openness, so we must be on to something good...

DC

[Viitalahde]

Yeaah, that is a nice thing.

Mine is also finished, when I get a cam, I'll post a pic of it. Simple 1u thing but works very well. My monitoring mode switch is one of the best parts of it.

There's two toggle switches. When they are toggled to left and right, you're stereo. When positioned towards center, you're in mono. When both are pointing to left, you have left mono - and vice versa.

Also the attenuators before the processors are nice - 11db in 23 steps. The first position actually takes them out of the circuit so they don't cause any more load when necessary. Actually the whole board doesn't parallel unnecessary loads in any mode.


Jaakko

[bblackwood]

Sounds great, Jaakko. Please post some pics when you get a camera...