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Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« on: November 27, 2007, 10:14:46 AM »

Hey.

Looking into buying some old Neve pre-amps/EQs. Already have SSL, API, DISA, Telefunken, Vintech etc. so need the best of the Neves.
I reckon the new re-issues (from the Neve company as well all the other "clone"-companies) aren´t that intestesting.

What´s the difference between the Neve 1076 and the 1073?


And are the prices of the 1076´s as high as eg. the 1073, 1081 etc?

Please see this auction, is this price alright:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-NEVE-1076-MIC-PRE-EQS-VINTAGE-ORIGINAL S-LIKE-1073_W0QQitemZ320187059657QQihZ011QQcategoryZ119022QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 10:55:45 AM »

These are basically a variation on a 1066.
(Slightly different HPF corners and presence centres.)

They look beautiful, in good cosmetic condition, etc (though no model designation on the front panels, strangely) and the seller claims they are 'well maintained' and 'in great operating order'.

Still, $8,400!

Unless I'm really out of date, that's way. high.
I'd have thought that you could get them for a lot less than that, racked up!

But I may be behind the times - it's hard to keep up with the mad prices this stuff is fetching nowadays.
(Glad I got mine when I did!)

Geoff?


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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 11:01:40 AM »

2000F wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 07:14

Hey.

Looking into buying some old Neve pre-amps/EQs. Already have SSL, API, DISA, Telefunken, Vintech etc. so need the best of the Neves.
I reckon the new re-issues (from the Neve company as well all the other "clone"-companies) aren´t that intestesting.

What´s the difference between the Neve 1076 and the 1073?


And are the prices of the 1076´s as high as eg. the 1073, 1081 etc?

Please see this auction, is this price alright:
   http://cgi.ebay.com/2-NEVE-1076-MIC-PRE-EQS-VINTAGE-ORIGINAL    S-LIKE-1073_W0QQitemZ320187059657QQihZ011QQcategoryZ119022QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Thanks in advance! Smile


Hi

It's all in his Ebay description... Switches for boost and cut instead of pots. Usually used in either film consoles or disc mastering consoles.

Sonically... it shouldn't make a damn bit of difference.... resistors strapped around a switch versus a potentiometers resistive track.

In use, the 2dB steps are nice for repeatability .... but it's a very rare module so the price is subjective. Looks steep to me though...

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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 12:50:06 PM »

The low value of the US dollar relative to the pound sterling would be a factor in how high these modules (or any gear offered by a UK seller) are priced on ebay USA.
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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 02:14:12 PM »


It's still pretty steep in UK money, IMHO.
Still, it might not put me off. They're only going to go up, anyway.. Wink

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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2007, 05:43:48 AM »

Cheers for the reply, mates. Nice one!
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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2007, 10:11:11 AM »

What is wrong with the newly made Neve modules?

Robin Porter of Neve, who cares deeply for the original vintage qualities,  worked very, very hard for a long time to source the absolute same original parts, and if they did not exist today, he had the same original manufacturers make them again from the original parts and specs.

Unlike many old ones, these new will work flawlessly for many years to come.


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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 10:36:45 AM »

compasspnt wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 15:11

What is wrong with the newly made Neve modules?



The price, perhaps.
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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2007, 11:39:44 AM »

Tomas Danko wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 10:36

compasspnt wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 15:11

What is wrong with the newly made Neve modules?



The price, perhaps.


Yes, I do understand that they are expensive.

But the OP  said:

2000F wrote on Tue, 27 November 2007 10:14


I reckon the new re-issues (from the Neve company as well all the other "clone"-companies) aren´t that intestesting.




Why would a real, newly made Neve 1073 not be "interesting?"  Because it is not old and beat up and crackly?

Are the new ones so differently priced from good old ones, if you can find them?
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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2007, 05:51:03 PM »

Might be an odd remark, but as a collector I don´t rate them interesting. You know, it´s hard  to explain, but the same goes for my record collecting thing. Smile


I´ve got some Vintech pres, and they sound wonderful. And I do of course appreciate if the reissued Neve units sound good, identical etc. But I´m still keen on the originals.
Any one care to comments if the new units just as good as the  original units?

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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2007, 06:07:36 PM »

I own a pair of original 1066's. A friend of mine has a pair of new 1081's.

We've never A/B'd them but I don't believe that mine sound better, to any noticeable degree.

I do enjoy the kudos of the oldies, though, the sense of history that they bring with them.

I don't think there's anything bad to be said for the new ones. As Terry points out, they're likely to need a bit less looking after.

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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2007, 07:03:22 AM »

2000F wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 17:51

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Any one care to comments if the new units just as good as the  original units?




When Right Track bought a 96 input VX in 1997, part of the package was 32 of the recently reissued 1081's in 4 racks of 8.
AMS/Neve was just ramping up manufacture of the reissues and could not deliver them on schedule. So they procured 32 original 1081's from an 8048 console, racked them up and let us use them until the reissues were ready.
We were quite happy with the loaned originals. They were in good shape and sounded fine.
When the reissues were finally delivered, we had the luxury of comparing them, sonic and technical, for 2 weeks.
The reissues won all contests.
No scratchy pots, no intermittent switches. The originals had a slight veiled sound when compared to the reissues which had more solid bass and extended top end.
We all agreed the reissues sounded like we remembered 1081's sounded like when we first encountered them in the 70's.
We had no remorse returning the originals back to AMS/Neve.

2 years ago Sony purchased 2 of the 1073 reissues.
We've had them side by side with many a cherished original brought in by producers and engineers. No one has had any complaints about the reissues lacking in any way  compared to the originals.
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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2007, 07:07:30 AM »

Dominick wrote on Thu, 29 November 2007 12:03

We were quite happy with the loaned originals. They were in good shape and sounded fine....

We all agreed the reissues sounded like we remembered 1081's sounded like when we first encountered them in the 70's.


Shows the value of good, regular maintenance (recapping, etc) of the old ones.

Those rotary switches do wear out. Thankfully, now that the reissues are on the market, the switches are available again.

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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2007, 11:25:08 AM »

MagnetoSound wrote on Thu, 29 November 2007 04:07

Dominick wrote on Thu, 29 November 2007 12:03

We were quite happy with the loaned originals. They were in good shape and sounded fine....

We all agreed the reissues sounded like we remembered 1081's sounded like when we first encountered them in the 70's.


Shows the value of good, regular maintenance (recapping, etc) of the old ones.

Those rotary switches do wear out. Thankfully, now that the reissues are on the market, the switches are available again.

Smile




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The rotary switches have always been available. The tough issues are the illuminated TJ switches on the 1081 that AMS-Neve use the Toko/Shadow switch with a custom cap to replace. Dialistat push buttons on everything after and including the 8108 stopped manufacture but you can get them now also.

All of this is issues with switch manufacturers, none is related to reissues on the market.

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Re: Neve 1076 (vs. 1073)
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2007, 11:40:03 AM »


Thanks Geoff. See PMs.

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