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bblackwood

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What's your chain?
« on: May 02, 2004, 05:07:50 pm »

I'm sure some guys have a ton more gear than I, some less, but assuming you were to list most everything you commonly use in your chain, what would it look like? What pieces of gear/software do you love?
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2004, 10:54:57 am »

Come on Guys... Homeland security won't confiscate anything you list Smile  If mastering chains are not a secret then why the silence?



Peace,
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2004, 12:40:10 pm »

First, I add cowbell to everyone's recording.  They'll like it.  I know they will.

Then, it's a trip through the Stereo Stupidifier with the Digital Sonic Decrapulator mod.

Then, perhaps some EQ, a quick run through a hot-rodded optical tube compressor, into the Apogee's, yada, yada, yada.  Monitored through the B&W 802's and a set of modified Wharfedales.  

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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2004, 06:54:44 pm »

Massive,

That cowbell video clip had me rolling.

Duaneadam
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2004, 07:25:38 pm »

Massive - can you give us more details as to what you're actually using?

Duaneadam - same for you?

Here's mine:

Analog (Studer A80) -> Crane Song EQ -> Sontec EQ -> Pendulum Compressor -> Crane Song Commpressor -> Crane Song ADC -> dbx Quantum -> L2 -> DAW -> Lavry DAC -> PassLabs amp -> B&W N802s w/ Velodyne DD12 sub

Digital source is same but has it's own Lavry DAC for playback.

Come on, share your toys!
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2004, 08:22:17 pm »

Geez, after that list, I'm gonna look pretty low-rent...

Here's some of it...

It's humble, but it's what I've got.  Back in "the day" I had access to much better gear, but now I do much better work.  Little by little, the gear will come I guess...  It was just way easier when someone else was paying for it!  Laughing  
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2004, 09:03:43 pm »

bblackwood wrote on Sun, 02 May 2004 18:07

assuming you were to list most everything you commonly use in your chain, what would it look like?


Studer A807 (repro only) > Manley Massive Passive > Normandy Baxandall EQ > Normandy tube line amp > Pendulum ES8 > Crane Song HEDD AD / process > L2 > Benchmark DAC-1 > Yorkville amp > JMLab Electra 926 speakers

Digital sources come from the HEDD DA.  Occasionally a problem source will get a little Waves C4, or some parallel compression in Samplitude.  I also have a Samplitude template setup to do some "ambience extraction / enhancement" as in the Bob Katz K-Stereo box, but I rarely use it.

The Normandy stuff is of my own design.  The Baxandall eq is basically a hi-fi version of the standard home stereo bass and treble control.  For some projects it doesn't need to get any more complicated than that.

Most of the chain has been modded in some fashion, and I'm sure most of you do the same to your stuff.  I'd be interested in knowing if any other ES8 users have modded the output gain controls.  I ordered the parts to make mine linear with max 6db of gain, but I'm getting used to the fiddly stock controls so I might just leave em.  Brad, is the output of Pendulum opto comp fiddly at all?

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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2004, 09:45:46 pm »

JLaPointe wrote on Tue, 04 May 2004 20:03

Brad, is the output of Pendulum opto comp fiddly at all?

Yeah, but I only adjust the threshold, ratio, attack and release times - I leave the output at 0...
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2004, 09:53:23 pm »

OK, here's my list... but don't ask me how any of it works, though!

Analog (Ampex 102) (if Digital (ProTools) -> Mytek DAC) -> Focusrite 330 Compressor-> Focusrite 315 EQ -> Maselec MDS-2 De-esser -> Manley VMu Compressor -> Sontec 432C EQ  -> Neve 32087 EQ -> Weiss EQ 1 -> Weiss DS-1 MKII Compressor -> Z-SYS Z-Q2 EQ -> T.C. Electronic Finalizer -> L2 -> Sadie -> Mytek DAC -> Brystons -> Custom Audio Hardware Loudspeakers

Mytek WC -> Rosendahl  -> any available WC
Shunyata Research AC and power distribution


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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2004, 02:47:02 am »

MCI JH110->1/4 & 1/2" Cranesong stc-8-> Cranesong ibis-> Mytek adc-> SIR reverb, waves plugs etc->Wavelab-> Mytek dac-> Coleman audio m3ph stepped monitor select w/VU mod-> dorrough 40-c meters-> Bryston 14b-> dunlavy scIIIa's.

JA Michelle orbe turnatable-> ear tube phono amp-> mytek adc

I'm waiting on some siemans u373 comps to be fixed(really snappy). just sold a ton of german eq's ,comps, & the fatso.

has anybody shot out the mytek adc with the crane song hedd?

Ed
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2004, 11:24:34 am »

DA Conversion
            Lavry Blue
            Lavry Gold DA924
            Weiss DAC1 MK2 24/192

Analog EQ    
            Manely MP
            Manley Stereo Pultec
            Cranesong Ibis
            Avalon 747

Analog Comp/
Limiters    
            Manley Vari MU
            Manley Slam
            Alan Smart C2
            Pendulum ES-8
            Crane Song STC-8H

AD Conversion
            Lavry Blue
            Lavry Gold
            Weiss ADC2 24/192

Digital
            Weiss EQ1-LP
            Weiss DS1-MK2
            Waves L2 Hardware
            Sony DRES777
            TC M4000
            Eventide DSP7000

Monitoring  
            Proceed HPA (5 Ch)
            Parasound 1500 A
            Integra 7.1 Processor
            Revel Gems
            Martin Logan/Velodyne Subs
            B & W 1nt (for Surround)
            Tannoy Reveal

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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2004, 12:35:34 pm »

Analog Tape
Studer A80 1/4 (Custom electronics)
Studer A80 1/2 (Custom electronics)

DA Conversion
Apogee AD8000 (modified)
XTC Dac (prototype)

Analog Outboard
Manley Vari-Mu Comp (modified)
GML 8200 EQ

AD Conversion
Apogee AD8000 (modified)

DAW
Protools Mix (44.1 & 48 only)
Wave plugins (inc L2)

Reverb
Lexicon 300

Monitoring
XTC active preamp (prototype)
XTC power amp (prototype)
Alon Phalanx/Poseidon speakers (modified)

Cable( Very Happy )
Wireworld
Audio Magic
Van Den Hul


I am pretty happy with the setup, with following caveats:

I would like an alternate compressor (ST8?)
I would like an alternate EQ (Ibis?)
I will need to move to 96k, but don't want to move to PT HD, although I want to stay with the Mac.

Best Regards

David C
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2004, 04:23:30 pm »

Ampex ATR-102 or Digital format>Millenia NSEQ2>Manley Vari-Mu or Tube Tech LCA 2B>Manley Massive Passive>Cranesong HEDD> L2>Apogee AD-8000SE>Cello Performance II amps>Dunlavy SC-V monitors
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2004, 12:17:20 am »

davidc wrote on Wed, 05 May 2004 10:35

Alon Phalanx/Poseidon speakers (modified)


Sorry to take this thread off-topic. Are you happy with these?
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2004, 01:54:26 am »

Quote:


B-rad axed:
Come on, share your toys!



Analogue source is ATR-100 transport with modded repro electronics and Flux Magnetics head -> Davelizer EQ -> MSEQ-2 (modified) -> 6386 Compressor (mostly stock) -> Custom 96k A/D -> tc 6000 -> HEDD 96 -> L2 -> Lavry 3000s to get back to 44k1 and Bob's your uncle; its "in the box."

Digital source uses the HEDD d/a which I quite like.  Seems a lttle "full" in the bass which isn't a bad thing for the most part.

Monitor dac is Lavry Blue, to custom monitor panel, blah, blah blah....

DC

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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2004, 03:47:45 am »

I'll be lame and just say there's a gear list on my website (promastering.com). Things get added or removed as necessary; it's not one set chain. Sometimes it's analog, sometimes digital, often a combination of both. There is, however, a "most common" path which includes the NSEQ2, Pendulum, Weiss, and L2. Some other things that get thrown in with some regularity are the t.c. sys 6000, A&M EQ (Davelizer), and not quite as often but still with at least some regularly, the HEDD and the Sintefex. Some other optional outboard and ancillary gear can be found at the site if anybody is still curious.

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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2004, 05:21:09 am »

Hi All,

I don't at the moment have an analogue tape machine, all files start and end in SADiE, so...

SADiE5 PCM8->Sintefex FX2000 ->Crane Song HEDD->dbx Quantum->Waves L2 (hardware)-> SADiE (edits/assembly and pow-R or TPDF dither)->Benchmark DAC-1->PMC AML1 active loudspeakers and Beyer DT990 headphones.

Clocking via Drawmer M-Clock, AES black to the SADiE, wordclock to the Sintefex and dbx (the HEDD picks up its clock from the AES audio). All comments on this welcome, by the way - it works fine, but is it too 'belt and braces'?

Gear notes

Sintefex FX2000: usually for compression, but I like some of the sampled EQs such as the Decca and Maselec, and sometimes run them alongside compressor gain curves only. The FX's digital EQ is usually in the side chain, but occasionally gets used pre-comp. to roll off extreme bass-heaviness in advance of other processing - I've also found the HPFs in the Sonalkisis plug-in EQ to be good for this task.

HEDD: I love this box, and use a little Pentode and Tape more often than not. When I eventually have analogue source and/or outboard I'm planning to use its ADC to get into digits.

Quantum: as some of you know, I'm a big fan of this, and use it for EQ (normal and MS) multiband compression, levelling and clipping, plus sometimes MS stereo balance and the 'ambience' function. I like the EQ in particular, and the whole package to me has an appealing 'Swiss army knife' aspect. I expect various of the Quantum's functions will be replaced in the fullness of time (Weiss, perhaps?) but I plan to hang on to it for a while yet.

L2: this is a new weapon in my arsenal and I'm still getting into it, but it seems to damage dense audio less than my SADiE limiter. At the moment I record non-L2 processing into SADiE and then perform a separate limit pass, but when I get brave enough I'll put the L2 on the end of the chain and record the proceeds in one go.

And finally, I've just bought an Alesis Masterlink - what a neat little box of tricks! The first thing I've done has been to dump a bunch of reference CD tracks into it so I can conveniently play them back through the DAC-1 via SPDIF for comparison with work in progress on the SADiE. The main reason for getting the Masterlink was to do analogue transfers at clients' studios via the HEDD's ADC, providing me with a file I can either play out or import into SADiE as an AIFF on a CD24 disk - up to this point I've had to take the SADiE to studios, something I'd rather avoid for obvious reasons. There seems no lack of HD space in the Alesis - when new it was showing capacity for (I think) 52 hours of 16/44.1 audio, so I imagine the drives are larger than they once were.
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2004, 06:19:38 am »

Innominandum wrote on Thu, 06 May 2004 05:17

davidc wrote on Wed, 05 May 2004 10:35

Alon Phalanx/Poseidon speakers (modified)


Sorry to take this thread off-topic. Are you happy with these?


Yes, absolutely! They are the one thing in the studio, I cannot see being changed in a long time.

They are not as sexy as the B&W Nautilus range, but I personally have not heard a better speaker. I particularly like the doped paper SEAS midrange units, which are very communicative. All the drivers use alnico magnets, so they have lower distortion and can be listened to all day without fatigue. I also like the combination of open baffle and dynamic drivers, which gives the openness and transparency of an electrostatic with the dynamics of a cone speaker. Finally they use first order filter slopes, which I find more musical.

I modified them by changing all internal wire with Teflon coated solid core silver (18 AWG), making them single wired with common earth, and fine tuning the crossovers.

The Poseidon Subs are not in use at the moment, as I am trying to find a way of integrating them without compromising the sound of the main units.


Best Regards

David C
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2004, 06:23:45 am »

dcollins wrote on Thu, 06 May 2004 06:54

Quote:


B-rad axed:
Come on, share your toys!



Analogue source is ATR-100 transport with modded repro electronics and Flux Magnetics head -> Davelizer EQ -> MSEQ-2 (modified) -> 6386 Compressor (mostly stock) -> Custom 96k A/D -> tc 6000 -> HEDD 96 -> L2 -> Lavry 3000s to get back to 44k1 and Bob's your uncle; its "in the box."

Digital source uses the HEDD d/a which I quite like.  Seems a lttle "full" in the bass which isn't a bad thing for the most part.

Monitor dac is Lavry Blue, to custom monitor panel, blah, blah blah....

DC


Dave,

You have omitted your monitoring chain.

Please share  Smile


Best Regards
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2004, 11:26:46 am »

Studer A80MkII/TelefunkenM10A-Neumann MT66 console-Neumann VMS62 Special.

What year is it? Oh yeah, 2004

A80-Maselec MEA2-Maselec MLA-2-Quad Eight 312s EQ-Lynx2 A/D-Waves stuff- CD or lacquer-Dahlquist Prelude speakers-Aragon Palladium Amps-fuzzy orange walls-ears
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Re: What's your chain?
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2004, 02:41:00 am »

sources:
file -> Zq-1 (cuts only) -> DAC1  
or
file -> Zq-1 (cuts only) -> DAC1 -> ATR 102 (900, 911, GP9) ->
or
ATR 102 ->

processing:
STC8 -> IBIS -> Model One 24/44.1 -> Waves L2 -> HEDD192 -> Samplitude (fades/edits/micro levels) -> HDCD 24 to 16

monitoring: Model One/DAC1 -> Adam S3As

file back up: Masterlink
other ideas:  Miniman 12s - waiting list
previously used: Manley Vari-Mu, Millenia NSEQ, Oram EQ, Trakkers, B+W 603s, dynAudio BM6As
demoed and passed on: Pendulum Mu, API2500, Drawmer1969, C1, GML eq
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