Matt_G wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 07:53 |
Haven't listened but did you hear anything? it's up to you & your client to be the judge, use your ears. If the overs are on quick transients you won't hear it.
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i am terribly biased. my opinion is that clipped samples are like having ground glass in
one's food, err... a few grains here and there won't harm you. likewise, i believe
that the presence of white noise in music has an "irritating" or disturbing"
psychoacoustic effect. this may trigger certain adrenaline centers too,
perhaps makes the music exciting. like chrome on a corolla.
hot peppers to make boring food seem exciting.
imo, whether a test subject can identify the source of the nervous irritant is another
question. if they can't, it still doesn't mean that there is no psychoacoustic effect.
hot peppers taste spicy; eat enough and they will make you perspire. so i think
that likewise: asking a music listener what they "hear"does not cover all.
music is like a drug. it can cause the brain to produce endorphins, etc.
(but not violent behavior, that would be tv and videogames! :+)
as for the minimum duration for this effect, i do not know. however, we could say that
the clipped signal is -loud-. why could we assume that would ever be inaudible? and
considering that most playback systems would not recover in time to reproduce
the immediately following samples accurately, the effect on reproduction in the
analog domain could last longer than it may appear to on our screens.
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As I said I doubt a handful of transient peak overs are going to be audible, certainly not as audible as the Mp3 encoding space monkeys
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any kind of torture causes unbearable discomfort. we cannot say one kind
of torture is better than another. and as i said above. i am not so
concerned with audibility as in the effect on brain chemistry or
neuro-electrical activity. on mood, which affects behavior.
even if a sound is masked; it still affects everything.
Matt_G wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 00:16 |
Then we get into the age old debate, what sounds better clipping or limiting.
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everybody has been clipping. and music sales have been slipping. so that debate seems lost by
default now. i think that music fans decided. i think we could plot these
trends on a graph, the total number of samples clipping on major
label releases would correlate with the drop in sales. thus my
theory. just ask anyone: "do old recordings sound better?"
jeff dinces