| David Schober wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 05:28 |
| Mixerman wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 01:48 |
| David Schober wrote on Sun, 09 May 2004 12:22 |
Call my system or whoever's system whatever you want. But lets get to the issues what really makes the difference in our work.
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So let me see if I've got this straight. You don't think that a specific manufacturer building and selling a system designed to be both closed and obsolete in a predetermined amount of time makes a difference in our work?
That's an interesting perspective you've got there.
Mixerman
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Okay.....I'm probably taking bait I shouldn't.
So here's some more that fit that bill IMHO. All of the Sony digital tape line. The Mitsubishi line as well. In a sense they're really worse as the platform was abandoned by the manufacturer. You know GM's unhappiness with his rather large investment of his console that can never be upgraded. While they weren't created to be "obsolete in a predetermined amount of time" their fate is worse than an upgrage path....because there is none.
Hasn't this been discussed ad nasuem?
PT, DP, Logic, etc all by the nature of what they are will be obsolete in a few years every time something new comes out, for ex, the release of OSX. But this stuff is only obsolete if you wanna have the newest thing. If you want to always have the newest, you'll have to pony up.
But, I have plenty of friends making lots of money on an old version of PT they bought a couple of years ago. In fact, one produced one of the biggest songs of the last couple of years, "I Can Only Imagine" on that "obsolete" system! So much for that affecting his work.
I've got other things to do rather than go down this path...like the tracking session I'm heading off to do. And the quality of work I do today, the sounds I get, the creativity I bring to the table make a heck of a lot more difference than what platform I'm on. Maybe you see it differently, but for me that's the bigger picture that keeps me working.
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And where have I ever said that one couldn't make a great record on Alsihad? Is that what you think I've been saying? Can you find a post anywhere in the countless record of posts on the Internet written by me, where I say that one can't be creative, or use an old system, or make a #1 hit, or make a great record with Alsihad? Because if I have, I'd be interested in reading that post.
According to your post, you're discounting my criticisms of a platform and its manufacturer as moot because in the bigger picture all that matters is creativity, working, and the making of hit records. If that's the case, then why discuss any gear at all? I mean, EQ in the box should be just fine and dandy since all that matters is that we're being creative and making future hit records (while working). Discussing the ramifications of sample rates such as 192, 96, 44.1, is unnecessary and irrelevant to our work. Be creative, work, make hit records, and you can use any and all of those sample rates. Has there been a hit at 192 yet? I'm just trying to figure out whether that particular sample rate has been validated yet.
I know, let's just all agree to disagree, and shut the place down. You make records your way with your gear. I make records my way with my gear. We have resolved all our issues here. Creativity, working, and hit records. This is all that matters. The gear is irrelevant. Let's move on now. Julie! OK, we can shut the place down now!
As much as I'm being somewhat sarcastic, I agree with you and what you're saying on a more global scale. What I don't agree with, is your use of this as an argument to discount my criticisms of the platform itself. These two concepts are mutually exclusive of one another. Back to the topic at hand.
This thread was about EQ in Alsihad. I use EQ in Alsihad on rare occasion. It works. When I turn up the highs, more highs come out of the speakers, when I turn up the lows, more lows come out of the speakers. The inverse happens when I cut these frequencies. If that's the level of listening that one is capable of, just about every EQ plug-in known to man is more than satisfactory. If you want something more in your working life, or if you find yourself becoming a tad bit more discerning, while being creative and making hit records, then I contend there are better options.
The side note of this thread is the use of the term Alsihad. I posted here to correct several gross misrepresentations regarding this term. Nothing more, nothing less. Upon posting my corrections, there were a few snide posts that looked down on the use of my term - a term that for all intents and purposes is meant to be funny. Humorous. Enjoyable, even. Of course, to some extent, even the snide reactions and the expressed desire to eradicate the word from existence, all play in to the master plan of this terms' entertainment value. For that, I thank you.
Like I said before, many moons ago on my forum at the Recpit, I tried to remove all posts that used the term [Alsihad's given name] and replace them with [Alsihad]. I tired to insist that posters on my forum use the term Alsihad. The results were disastrous. To this day, there are some respected (here on these forums if no where else) engineers that refuse to post on my forum. Oops! Obviously, this was a learning experience. I learned that I can't really stop people from using terminology that I find distasteful. I learned that if I tried, I'd risk my own personal well being, as I was becoming unglued. Mad, even! Fortunately, I snapped out of my madness, and I came back to reality. I realized that I had to get over it. As a result [Alsihad's given name] is now allowed on my forum, regardless of my disdain for the term. I now embrace all terminology that relate to Alsihad. I feel I'm a better person for it.
Now, I too must get ready to go to work. (Although, contrary to popular belief, I DO have a computer at work).
Enjoy,
Mixerman
