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[jlapointe]

I've recently discovered that when using the Algorithmix Red and/or Blue eqs (vst) on objects in Samplitude that a small "click" noise occurs as Samp plays back over the leading edge of the object.  I have tried uninstalling the Algo eqs and reinstalling, but no change.

If I create a short fade in on the object, the click goes away, but this is not always possible as sometimes I receive files cut right to the first bit of sound.

Has anyone else encountered this?  Any idea what I might do to fix it?  I'm using Samplitude 8.21 and the latest updates of Red and Blue.

Thanks!

[Masterer]

It's not just the Algo's. Any CPU intensive plug or combo of plugs will do it. Haven't had time to chase down the problem yet.

Workaround has been to cap a bit of the top of the track with a lead in bit of silence.

Not elegent, but it works.

[Gold]

Another thing to do is to bounce the track when you're done. I don't think it will happen in non real time.

[lucidwaves]

Masterer wrote on Wed, 15 August 2007 18:18

It's not just the Algo's. Any CPU intensive plug or combo of plugs will do it. Haven't had time to chase down the problem yet. Workaround has been to cap a bit of the top of the track with a lead in bit of silence. Not elegent, but it works.

Apparantly it's not just in Samplitude either, as I have the exact same problem and workaround in Adobe Audition.

[Bob Olhsson]

Here it happens in bounces and not in real time.

[Gold]

Bob Olhsson wrote on Thu, 16 August 2007 11:44

Here it happens in bounces and not in real time.

I've never used Algorithmix plugs but clicks on boarders happened with the waves restoration plugs I was using. Although there were clicks in real time they didn't happen on the bounce.

[Darth Fader]

I use Algorithmix plugs everyday, albeit in Sequoia, but i've never had any prolems.
( i have had this with the Seq. amp simulator, though.. oddly..)

have you checked the samp / seq forums?
usually there's good info there.
Are you using them  as DX plugins or VST?
I use the DX verisons... don't know if that matters.

( ... i won't go into the workarounds, as i take it you're looking for the cause + solution, not just, 'freeze and fade in' or something of that nature)


Husky

[Masterer]

Yeah, It happens when you bounce.

[Masterer]

Darth Fader wrote on Thu, 16 August 2007 15:12

Are you using them  as DX plugins or VST? I use the DX verisons... don't know if that matters.

It happens with DX. I don't think it matters. I've noticed it only when the edge is close to audio and I'm chewin' a fair amount of CPU.

[Phil Demetro]

A bigger issue for me....My algo denoisers crap out (even when bouncing back to disk and reimported to the session  - it's still there)

I have a intel mac book pro (laptop)

I guess this concurs with other users replies? Definitely a glitch when it goes over the plug in "area"

Sorry for a fast n' crude reply (internet cafe reply)

[TotalSonic]

Turns out there are indeed reasons I remain a SAWStudio user.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

[Ed Littman]

Masterer wrote on Wed, 15 August 2007 21:18

Workaround has been to cap a bit of the top of the track with a lead in bit of silence. Not elegent, but it works.

swhat i do too. i just always check the bounced/rendered file for problems. usually have none with the extra space.
Ed

[Phil Demetro]

Masterer wrote on Wed, 15 August 2007 21:18

It's not just the Algo's. Any CPU intensive plug or combo of plugs will do it. Haven't had time to chase down the problem yet. Workaround has been to cap a bit of the top of the track with a lead in bit of silence. Not elegent, but it works.

I never had a problem with this until recently when a virus took my whole machine down.

After a re-install the Algo's choked when the play cursor went from  digital black to the edge of the processed file.

The only reason that I can think of is that there must a conflict between the wibu key and the usb port. Obvious? It's not the computer or Samplitude, in my opinion.

I remember Petar from Algo. telling me that the wibu keys are very power hungry. He told me to get a USB hub for added stability. After hooking that back up I still got that choking effect.

I have my plugins on a separate Wibu  from the Sequoia Wibu so I took it off the hub and put it in various USB ports on my computer until the issue was solved.

Seems good now...touch wood

[Thomas W. Bethel]

Or it could be because the file has a lot of DC offset that can really cause clicks in a file when you start up. Maybe check the DC offset?

[Phil Demetro]

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 17:04

Or it could be because the file has a lot of DC offset that can really cause clicks in a file when you start up. Maybe check the DC offset?

Hmmm. Interesting.
I never really gave DC offset any thought?
I never do.Maybe I should?

I thought good AD converters took care of such and the like?

[Ed Littman]

Quote:

Phil Demetro wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 12:44 I remember Petar from Algo. telling me that the wibu keys are very power hungry. He told me to get a USB hub for added stability. After hooking that back up I still got that choking effect. I have my plugins on a separate Wibu  from the Sequoia Wibu so I took it off the hub and put it in various USB ports on my computer until the issue was solved. Seems good now...touch wood

well, I didn't have this same problem with Wibu, but when i first installed it for algorithmix my printer stopped working. I did not make the connection for a while but during an emegency call to the guys in germany( they gave me the demo on the disc instead of the full version i was in the middle of a project & time ran out,etc) they recommended downloading the new driver for wibu. deep in the paper work it said there were problems with some cannon printers. bingo!
any way...try the current driver.
Ed