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Author Topic: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue  (Read 5209 times)

jlapointe

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I've recently discovered that when using the Algorithmix Red and/or Blue eqs (vst) on objects in Samplitude that a small "click" noise occurs as Samp plays back over the leading edge of the object.  I have tried uninstalling the Algo eqs and reinstalling, but no change.

If I create a short fade in on the object, the click goes away, but this is not always possible as sometimes I receive files cut right to the first bit of sound.

Has anyone else encountered this?  Any idea what I might do to fix it?  I'm using Samplitude 8.21 and the latest updates of Red and Blue.

Thanks!

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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 09:18:03 PM »

It's not just the Algo's. Any CPU intensive plug or combo of plugs will do it. Haven't had time to chase down the problem yet.

Workaround has been to cap a bit of the top of the track with a lead in bit of silence.

Not elegent, but it works.
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 07:20:10 AM »

Another thing to do is to bounce the track when you're done. I don't think it will happen in non real time.
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2007, 11:44:56 AM »

Masterer wrote on Wed, 15 August 2007 18:18

It's not just the Algo's. Any CPU intensive plug or combo of plugs will do it. Haven't had time to chase down the problem yet.

Workaround has been to cap a bit of the top of the track with a lead in bit of silence.

Not elegent, but it works.

Apparantly it's not just in Samplitude either, as I have the exact same problem and workaround in Adobe Audition.
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2007, 11:44:57 AM »

Here it happens in bounces and not in real time.

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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2007, 02:53:15 PM »

Bob Olhsson wrote on Thu, 16 August 2007 11:44

Here it happens in bounces and not in real time.


I've never used Algorithmix plugs but clicks on boarders happened with the waves restoration plugs I was using. Although there were clicks in real time they didn't happen on the bounce.
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2007, 03:12:08 PM »

I use Algorithmix plugs everyday, albeit in Sequoia, but i've never had any prolems.
( i have had this with the Seq. amp simulator, though.. oddly..)

have you checked the samp / seq forums?
usually there's good info there.
Are you using them  as DX plugins or VST?
I use the DX verisons... don't know if that matters.

( ... i won't go into the workarounds, as i take it you're looking for the cause + solution, not just, 'freeze and fade in' or something of that nature)


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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2007, 08:45:04 PM »

Yeah, It happens when you bounce.
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2007, 08:48:14 PM »

Darth Fader wrote on Thu, 16 August 2007 15:12

Are you using them  as DX plugins or VST?
I use the DX verisons... don't know if that matters.



It happens with DX. I don't think it matters. I've noticed it only when the edge is close to audio and I'm chewin' a fair amount of CPU.
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2007, 05:50:39 PM »

A bigger issue for me....My algo denoisers crap out (even when bouncing back to disk and reimported to the session  - it's still there)

I have a intel mac book pro (laptop)

I guess this concurs with other users replies? Definitely a glitch when it goes over the plug in "area"

Sorry for a fast n' crude reply (internet cafe reply)
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2007, 06:23:28 PM »

Turns out there are indeed reasons I remain a SAWStudio user.

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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2007, 12:26:22 AM »

Masterer wrote on Wed, 15 August 2007 21:18



Workaround has been to cap a bit of the top of the track with a lead in bit of silence.

Not elegent, but it works.


swhat i do too. i just always check the bounced/rendered file for problems. usually have none with the extra space.
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2007, 12:44:31 PM »

Masterer wrote on Wed, 15 August 2007 21:18

It's not just the Algo's. Any CPU intensive plug or combo of plugs will do it. Haven't had time to chase down the problem yet.

Workaround has been to cap a bit of the top of the track with a lead in bit of silence.

Not elegent, but it works.


I never had a problem with this until recently when a virus took my whole machine down.

After a re-install the Algo's choked when the play cursor went from  digital black to the edge of the processed file.

The only reason that I can think of is that there must a conflict between the wibu key and the usb port. Obvious? It's not the computer or Samplitude, in my opinion.

I remember Petar from Algo. telling me that the wibu keys are very power hungry. He told me to get a USB hub for added stability. After hooking that back up I still got that choking effect.

I have my plugins on a separate Wibu  from the Sequoia Wibu so I took it off the hub and put it in various USB ports on my computer until the issue was solved.

Seems good now...touch wood


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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2007, 05:04:35 PM »

Or it could be because the file has a lot of DC offset that can really cause clicks in a file when you start up. Maybe check the DC offset?
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Re: "clicks" on object edges w/ Samplitude + Algorithmix Red and Blue
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2007, 04:33:36 PM »

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Tue, 28 August 2007 17:04

Or it could be because the file has a lot of DC offset that can really cause clicks in a file when you start up. Maybe check the DC offset?


Hmmm. Interesting.
I never really gave DC offset any thought?
I never do.Maybe I should?

I thought good AD converters took care of such and the like?
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