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Your philosophy?
« on: July 23, 2007, 02:12:56 pm »

I'm bored with the debate over a certain poker playing engineer from Chicagos recording philosophy.

What's yours and why?

FWIW Mine is pretty simple--take the approach that is:

1. Asked of you.
2. Required of you.
3. Feels right.

The why:

1. They are paying the tab, if they ask you to stay out of the way or to get in the fray that is what you should do. The key here is it takes a certain amount of confidence to stay out of the way and a certain amount of ego to stay in the fray. whatever you do should reflect the prime directive and you by any means necessary should DO NO HARM.

2. That's the grey area that you have to cross sometimes when asked to stay out of the way because sometimes what a bands asks for is not completely what they want. This is where clairvoyance comes in handy.

3. This is what usually happens once the bonds of mutual respect are formed. Either way, i've listed it as #3 but it could just as easily be #1 if the trust already existed.
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2007, 02:41:41 pm »

what:
1. make the client comfortable and happy.

why?
repeat business, word of mouth referrals.

i can be artsy fartsy / drive the bus all i want in my own bands and recordings and don't feel comfortable as of yet donning the producer hat.

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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2007, 05:03:06 pm »

Fibes wrote on Mon, 23 July 2007 13:12

I'm bored with the debate over a certain poker playing engineer from Chicagos recording philosophy.

What's yours and why?

FWIW Mine is pretty simple--take the approach that is:

1. Asked of you.
2. Required of you.
3. Feels right.




Well this thread is going to keep that discussion alive (directly or indirectly).

(Assuming Point 2 means professional requirements...like equipment maintenance and such,)
I think the real discussion point is on areas like your Point 3.

These are intangible, ambiguous and highly subjective "standards".  By this I  refer to all cases where "feels right" refers to all other parties but the band (as that would be covered in Point 1).

What do these things mean...what does feeling right to you have to do with the band, unless the two happen to be congruent.  
(And by YOU I am not referring to you personally Fibes, but this general area of "standards" that very many of us have.)

Other common comments of that ilk:
-'til it grooves/has the vibe
-'til it rocks/pops/splats
-'til it speaks to me
-Whatever serves the song/vibe (that one is my favorite)


There are few people who have a desired sound/production that bands may go for (TLA/CLA, Clearmountain, Vig, etc.)  Those guys maybe requested to perform their magic.  Or they may be in a position to be considered "hit makers".  If that indeed is even a desire of the band (may our may not be).  So their opinion is part of the package.

Otherwise, how do _you_ know what serves the song?  The band only knows that.  And even if they consciously dont, it is their art.

Point 3 really has no position in the equation unless, as Fibes pointed out, the band has a working relationship with the AE and is looking for that sort of input.

I think that is where most of the forum's philosophies will differ: whether the AE believes Point 3 type approaches belong in a mixing philosophy. (And of course shades between the all or nothing extreme.)  I think many believe that is what they are being contracted for (and of course in many cases that is so.)
I believe that thought process is assumed too much....as a default modus operandi.

I almost wanted to hold off this reply to see how many would post something along the lines of "I do what serves the song".


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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2007, 05:24:48 pm »

I do what serves the song, duuude.

Laughing

Let's get more specific, shall we?

Unless the song is meant to be static, I want it to MOVE. I like certain things to happen at eyeblink speed, certain things to be more like a swinging weight, most of all I want the speeds to CHANGE UP and not be all rigidly stuck to a predictable style of motion. There's some sounds that slam down like a gavel banging, some that swell up like an ocean wave, some that hit like a camera shutter- all these are cool, it has everything to do with types of EQ and compression but only because they are ways of changing or maximizing what's already there. Some sounds don't need any of that, some you go totally nuts on.

Unless the song is meant to be a very restricted overall color, I want it to be COLORFUL. To me that means hi-fi is the last concern, really the last. If you're going for fidelity you'll want every sound to be well-behaved and not sound screwed up, and there are some really intense colors that are completely screwed up! I got to play with this with a new plugin on the current IMP so we'll see if anyone else agrees or not. I like the parked-wah trick. I like incredibly focused, tight sounds in many cases. In other cases I want the opposite- I want a solidness with only a loose emphasis on any particular tone color.

No matter what I always like SONORITY. That resonant richness of a distant French horn? Gimme more of that. Orchestral horns? Screw the spitty highs, I want to hear them go WAAAAAAAAH! AC-30 wound up and making that searing voicelike yowl? Ohyeah. Goes double for vocalists, I love it when people can project. One of my favorite vocalists ever is Sandy Denny. Also Steve Winwood... when these people are really laying it down, it's possible you won't even understand the words, but the tone and feeling is carrying the whole load. That's a sound phenomenon just as much as pitch range is, it can be learned, it can be enhanced in mix.

That's what I mean when I say I want to serve the song. I see the song as being carried through movement, color decisions and sincerity- and sincerity for a lot of different sounds is gonna be associated with sonority, if you don't mean it the sound isn't going to come out with the kind of resonance you get from real conviction.

I've had more opportunity to _think_ about my philosophy than to actually _work_ with it, but that's thanks to IMPs more than anything- you don't have to have a philosophy to just mix your own stuff, you wing it and have fun. When you're confronted with other stuff and you also know most of your fellow AEs are going to hate whatever you do, it compels you to figure out what it is you DO actually want, and how you're getting it. That's where the philosophy comes in.

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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2007, 05:26:40 pm »

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I almost wanted to hold off this reply to see how many would post something along the lines of "I do what serves the song".


yeah, "serving the song" is pretty vague because it can be interpreted in so many ways. it's basically saying "make it more like the way i see it/want it".

personally, i have no problem with intervention (whichever side it is i'm on in a session), but i feel like the engineer needs to be able to back up his reasoning very well. nothing irks me more when the engineer does something just because "it's cool"/"that's just how i work"/"that's how records are made" or whatever. it smacks of laziness and arrogance.
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2007, 09:10:19 pm »

Today, one more day is gone forever.

Never let up for a second.

Work harder at everything.
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2007, 11:14:52 pm »

I don't post much so I may not be one of the "dudes" here but I thought I would throw in my $.02

Care. Alot. Care about the outcome more than the band. Take it personally. Get very involved. Try to exceed your expectations by alot. Every time. Regardless of who the band is, or if they're signed, or if they will ever sell one record. Act like it's the most important record in the world, because to them it is.

I don't work with signed bands often so where it's going afterwards has little effect on how hard I try. It shouldn't matter. They're all important. Budget and time constraints shouldn't matter either. Obviously if there is no time you do what you can but always give your best.

A guy I used to work with always told me "once you agree to do a job for a given price you have to do the best job possible. You can't have different levels of commitment to the project based on price".

Oh and also "have a good time, all the time. That's my credo Marty..."

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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2007, 11:32:27 pm »

Mike Major wrote on Mon, 23 July 2007 22:14

I don't post much so I may not be one of the "dudes" here but I thought I would throw in my $.02

Care. Alot. Care about the outcome more than the band. Take it personally. Get very involved. Try to exceed your expectations by alot. Every time. Regardless of who the band is, or if they're signed, or if they will ever sell one record. Act like it's the most important record in the world, because to them it is.

I don't work with signed bands often so where it's going afterwards has little effect on how hard I try. It shouldn't matter. They're all important. Budget and time constraints shouldn't matter either. Obviously if there is no time you do what you can but always give your best.

A guy I used to work with always told me "once you agree to do a job for a given price you have to do the best job possible. You can't have different levels of commitment to the project based on price".

Oh and also "have a good time, all the time. That's my credo Marty..."

Mike




well put. i tend the like "they" and "them" over "I" and "me" when it comes to helping people make records.

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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2007, 01:41:35 am »

Have the best possible time... ALL of the time.

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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2007, 09:27:42 am »

chrisj wrote on Mon, 23 July 2007 16:24

I do what serves the song, duuude.

Laughing

I've had more opportunity to _think_ about my philosophy than to actually _work_ with it, but that's thanks to IMPs more than anything-


Yeah, the IMPs have been great for this.

chrisj


you don't have to have a philosophy to just mix your own stuff, you wing it and have fun. When you're confronted with other stuff and you also know most of your fellow AEs are going to hate whatever you do, it compels you to figure out what it is you DO actually want, and how you're getting it. That's where the philosophy comes in.


That is a great MO.  Whatever the motivation (in this case other AE's perception of your work), that fact that it drives you to figure out what you DO.  I think that is probably the best way to approach this (sh|t, life too.)

Thanks for the perspective Chris!  (Can you ever have too much perspective...)

Cheers,
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2007, 10:45:01 am »

Tim Gilles wrote on Tue, 24 July 2007 01:41

Have the best possible time... ALL of the time.

Tim "Rumblefish" Gilles

Yeah...   what he said...   and...

Unlike a live show, a recording is forever.   Work on every record knowing that it must sound as awesome as you possibly can make it.   Sure, your skill-set will improve over time and isn't the same today as it was yesterday, but if you're having a good time making the record and the band is having a good time and you're all working at your absolute maximum level of performance, this will all come through in the sound and feel of the recording.

IMO, everything else is secondary.
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2007, 10:52:10 am »

Tim Gilles wrote on Tue, 24 July 2007 01:41

Have the best possible time... ALL of the time.

Tim "Rumblefish" Gilles


Yeah Tim, so true.

You don't have to subscribe to "The Secret" to understand that good vibes are contagious.

As Spoon mentioned, these things/philosophies are intangibles but the more one does this sort of thing the more intuition/the gut takes over and makes things fun/seamless/feeling good.

As a session musician I've seen projects go awry at the hand of the producer, engineer or one of their hangers on.

It is our job to do no harm.

But it's more than that.

great posts btw.






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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2007, 11:36:54 am »

pg666 wrote on Mon, 23 July 2007 17:26

Quote:

I almost wanted to hold off this reply to see how many would post something along the lines of "I do what serves the song".


yeah, "serving the song" is pretty vague because it can be interpreted in so many ways. it's basically saying "make it more like the way i see it/want it"


Well this will definitely confirm that it can be interpreted in so many ways, because I'd actually expect someone who stands by that "philosophy", vague as it may be, to look outside himself to get to where it needs to be,

Everything's always gonna be "the way i see it/want it" with everyone up to a point, because you gotta be able to live with the results...but to me "serving the song" would actually mean "i'm not here to impose my vision on things" (even tho we all know our tastes and preferences can't be unplugged, just controlled up to a point)

That doesn't necessarily mean that I am totally non-participant...that, to me, definitely and totally depends on how much leeway the band decides to give mem which most of the times is a lot...

FWIW, my own philosophy would perhaps be:

Treat people right, make a conscious effort to enjoy everything you do, and try to get things right from the start. Everything else will pretty much take care of itself.

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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2007, 05:36:56 pm »



1. Do whatever it takes

2. Never give up

3. Treat everyone as an equal (even if they are an ego-maniacal rock star)

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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2007, 09:46:39 pm »

"3. Treat everyone as an equal (even if they are an ego-maniacal rock star)"

brings to mind another of mike stavrou's maxims:

"treat stars as regular people and treat regular people as stars"
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2007, 10:32:51 pm »

I want to go on what Juergen said.

Being "unplugged" and a "non-participant" is not why bands come to record with you.

If all they needed was someone to push play/record, they would have their buddy do it. It's BS man.

People come to you for a reason. Fibes said: "... mutual respect". A good ear. Albini's killer drums... whatever it is.

You are not transparent. If you are... you're not needed. Whatever, whatever... play the "naturalist" card. Go way out with your mixes... but be YOU.

If it's your attitude... good or bad. The way you set up and get that killer tone. You're easy going. You give pointers... you shut up and are diplomatic. Whatever it is that you do, that's what you do!

Everywhere I go... there I am!

Make me sound like Bonham... dude! You're not Bonham.

I love what Steve Albini did with that Nirvana record... dude. I'm not Steve Albini and I'm not going to try to be, but I can do (this) for you and I know that's why you like me and come to me to record you.

I follow in the words of Major Mike (are you there ground control? Is this thing on?)

CARE! Make this your last record... EP... demo! You might not be here tomorrow.
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2007, 02:34:05 pm »

didn't read any replies on purpose


if i have to nail down a philosophy it would have to be something like this.

keep in mind though, that i truly believe that as i grow and gain experience so will my work habits and philosophies toward them.

i tell bands all the time that i will do whatever it is i feel necessary to bring the song out.  keep in mind that that only includes me.  i get to move on and make another record, but this one, is THEIR record and they have to live with it forever.  if there is something they want changed, or added or whatever, they need to speak up.  i will bend over bacwards to do what they want.  

i believe that music is art, and the artist should be honored at all times.  i also understand that i will inevitably add something (positive hopefully, but negative possibly) to the art.  i try to be respectful of that, while still trusting my instincts.
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2007, 07:11:06 pm »

j.hall wrote on Wed, 25 July 2007 14:34

i believe that music is art, and the artist should be honored at all times.  i also understand that i will inevitably add something (positive hopefully, but negative possibly) to the art.  i try to be respectful of that, while still trusting my instincts.


Very nicely put.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2007, 05:10:55 pm »

I don´t know where I got this from (maybe from the PSW anyway), Trevor Horn quoted on this once:

A producer should produce hits. No hits can be produced by the band themself ... or something similar...

Capture the sound if there´s a sound. Produce a new sound if there´s no sound. Same with songs...

It should be great, or at least sound great.

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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2007, 02:00:38 pm »

1) do the best I can
2) make the best RECORD I can
3) turn down those projects I don't think I can help
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2007, 07:26:08 pm »

trevor horn (allegedly) said:

"No hits can be produced by the band themself ... "

i guess that's why led zeppelin never had hits...
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2007, 10:06:58 pm »

can you honestly say that led zep suffered from self producing?
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2007, 07:22:23 am »

Maybe just a little bit.... Wink

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2007, 02:50:04 pm »

It's funny.

Willie Dixon might...

While it's easy to list successful self-producing bands it's just as easy to list unsuccessful ones too.

That said, i'm adding that i shall treat each project on its own terms/merits.

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2007, 04:54:54 pm »

Fibes wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 13:50



That said, i'm adding that i shall treat each project on its own terms/merits.




indeed!

however, i'm primarily a mixer, so this doesn't enter my mind too much.
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2007, 06:58:30 pm »

One size does not fit all. Vision is key.

I try to get a clear idea of what artists are shooting for first and foremost, this may be something obvious or it may be wildly individualistic. If they don't appear to be clear on this I see it as essential to start listing various options until we can narrow things down. This element of pre-production may take ten minutes or an hour or two. If someone is trying to express themselves musically it's good to have a sense of their vision.

I'll happily take whoever is present through every step of the practical process verbally as it happens, even when they don't quite understand initially what is happening. It's part of my "philosophy" to have every step understood and vetted by the client. By the time we're done they know considerably more about the process than they did when they walked in and have absolute confidence that they had as much control over things as possible. Sometimes people don't want to know - but I'll resolutely blather on as we're working anyway, and continually check that they like what's happening. Unsurprisingly, even the most un-technically minded musicians know when they hear something they like or dislike. It's often not a matter of right or wrong.

If someone makes a call which I think they might regret later I do feel compelled to offer my opinion at times, but I'll ultimately obey their instructions. I wouldn't like to be held accountable for NOT doing/saying something (as much as for doing something) by others or indeed my own conscience.

I guess my philosophy (if you'd call it that) is mutual understanding - I understand their goals/vision, they understand my/our process, everybody learns something and musical and sonic progress is made.


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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2007, 08:04:28 pm »

I like to treat all my clients like rock stars, except the rock stars. They want to be treated like everyday folk and get down to business.

The philosophy is *gratitude* here. I like what I do and I like the people I meet in music. Simple.

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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2007, 10:44:58 am »

1. Each project is unique.
2. Each session is unique.
3. Every band is unique.

4. Learn, Practice, Master, and continue to fine-tune and develop your workflow and technique.

5. Ditch #4 if there is a compelling reason and move into personally uncharted territory.

6. Teach, educate, and inform when called upon. Explaining the why helps everyone understand including yourself.

7. Allow yourself to be taught.

8. Allow yourself to listen like it is the first time.

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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2007, 07:07:55 pm »

<<<
1) do the best I can
2) make the best RECORD I can
3) turn down those projects I don't think I can help>>>

Great stuff, best answer I've seen. However, I would offer one counter opinion to those who say to "do their best work" "work harder" "get the best sound" etc etc. I think we get lost in this CONTROL mindset. Examples of why I feel "best" is not an issue:

- I can get better kick drum sounds than ANY Motown record.
- Some great records have distortions or low vocals in the mix.
- Led Zeppelin/Beatles/Manowar - were they doing "their best" on ALL their songs? Nah. (Well, Manowar was.)

I think doing GOOD work and having fun is most important. Your 'good' may blow someone away - we constantly see this in popular music. I have no need/drive to excel, but I am good at things I do.

So, my philosphy is more "to push things in the direction that makes people like it more".
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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2007, 12:02:44 pm »

Brian Kehew wrote on Sun, 05 August 2007 19:07

<<<
1) do the best I can
2) make the best RECORD I can
3) turn down those projects I don't think I can help>>>

Great stuff, best answer I've seen. However, I would offer one counter opinion to those who say to "do their best work" "work harder" "get the best sound" etc etc. I think we get lost in this CONTROL mindset. Examples of why I feel "best" is not an issue:

- I can get better kick drum sounds than ANY Motown record.
- Some great records have distortions or low vocals in the mix.
- Led Zeppelin/Beatles/Manowar - were they doing "their best" on ALL their songs? Nah. (Well, Manowar was.)

I think doing GOOD work and having fun is most important. Your 'good' may blow someone away - we constantly see this in popular music. I have no need/drive to excel, but I am good at things I do.

So, my philosphy is more "to push things in the direction that makes people like it more".




Brian,

Right on. Too many people go for great sounds when appropiate sounds would be well, more appropriate.

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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2007, 12:12:09 pm »

Fibes wrote on Mon, 06 August 2007 12:02




Brian,

Right on. Too many people go for great sounds when appropiate sounds would be well, more appropriate.




YES!!!

I was having this conversation with someone yesterday.   We were talking about how extremes have killed just about everything.   It's not football, it's music.   Going with your gut may not 'reinvent the wheel' of recording, but it feels right.   That may be all that matters.

Thanks Fibes!   Well put.
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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2007, 12:17:49 pm »

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However, I would offer one counter opinion to those who say to "do their best work" "work harder" "get the best sound" etc etc. I think we get lost in this CONTROL mindset. Examples of why I feel "best" is not an issue:

- I can get better kick drum sounds than ANY Motown record.
- Some great records have distortions or low vocals in the mix.



interesting point, but all that it tells me is that those kick tones and distorted vocals don't really matter when the music is great. saying "all the best records have flaws" isn't going to make me try any less hard.

to me, 'great sounds' and 'appropriate sounds' are one in the same. that great 'Back in Black' snare drum would sound like crap on a Marvin Gaye record.

as far as that point about the Beatles and Zep keeping their not quite brilliant takes.. that just serves as a reminder that records are not the end all measuring sticks for a bands quality.

..still doesn't make me try less hard to make great records.

the trick is.. great does NOT =perfect. the pursuit of 'perfection' (if i may be so zen for a moment) is often where the greatness is lost. *puts down the bong*
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2007, 06:47:31 am »

>>the trick is.. great does NOT =perfect<<

Yep - so one corollary to learn is that "perfection" does not take you closer to that goal. THey are independant of each other: a great record can sound great or terrible. Sometimes it NEEDS to be one or the other.

So - you should be flexible enough to say "This needs a weird/bad vocal" and not ALWAYS your U47 clone into your Neve clone on vocals. "All-Fi" is something Jon Brion has come up with - not LoFi or HiFi - encompassing all that can be needed to make a record great. Too many people stay on one side or the other.
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« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2007, 11:14:00 am »

MAN. OH. MAN.

I wish I could get my bandmates to understand what you're saying!  The phrase "it's only rock and roll" really needs to be embraced more fully in a lot of circles.  Not as an excuse to be sloppy, but as an excuse to leave great attitude alone and worry about whether or not it kicks ass, not whether or not it is perfectly grid edited.
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« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2007, 03:46:51 pm »

On the other hand.. Great equipment and accurate producing has never killed great rock music...so far... as far as I know...

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« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2007, 04:03:17 pm »

I'm not saying "use crap and be sloppy," I'm saying use the best of what you have available, bust your ass to play it the way it should be played, have some fun doing it, and don't worry if it doesn't sound like it was played by a robot.  Leave enough room to let some mistakes happen, because God only knows what awesomeness can come out of that.
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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2007, 04:05:39 pm »

My philosophy: lots of beer, and strippers. Works every time!  Very Happy
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2007, 08:52:22 am »

Don't forget the hookers and blow!

That reminds me of a couple sessions some years back during the 90's...

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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2007, 03:35:03 pm »

I've never been interested in producing music and have had decent luck with a "I'm not here to make you sound different from who you are, I'm just here to make a really good recording of you" way of doing things.  (I had this philosophy years before I heard of Steve Albini)  I do affect the sound, but it's more my gear/habits, than a effort to produce bands.

However, years later, I've noticed that bands don't really want to sound like themselves.  

Oh well.
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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2007, 09:53:37 am »

floodstage wrote on Mon, 13 August 2007 14:35


However, years later, I've noticed that bands don't really want to sound like themselves.  

Oh well.


i've noticed that too.  kinda sad in a lot of ways.
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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2007, 10:05:02 am »

j.hall wrote on Tue, 14 August 2007 09:53

floodstage wrote on Mon, 13 August 2007 14:35


However, years later, I've noticed that bands don't really want to sound like themselves.  

Oh well.


i've noticed that too.  kinda sad in a lot of ways.



Not always but the ones that do want to sound like themselves can sometimes not know what they really sound like.

That's always a wondeful scenario.

I'm working on a total Southern Pop record right now that is unabashed sweetness and i'm loving it.

No pretense.

No posturing.

No 10 minute songs.


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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2007, 10:24:46 am »

Fibes wrote on Tue, 14 August 2007 09:05



No 10 minute songs.





and that is a beautiful thing.  thankfully i haven't had to deal with this very much yet.  i have a feeling it's coming though.
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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2007, 10:34:49 am »

How many of you have had to kick band members out of a tracking session because they can't stop being the center of attention when someone else is making takes?

Or they give negative reinforcement?


Or they fart every five seconds?


Or they ask questions more often than they fart?


Sometimes having "everyone involved" is like last nights episode of Entourage.

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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2007, 09:41:18 pm »

Fibes wrote on Mon, 20 August 2007 09:34



Or they give negative reinforcement?




seems like this happens every time i track a record.

last year i had to kick a drummer out because he hadn't showered in days, and i just couldn't handle the stink.
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Re: Your philosophy?
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2007, 12:39:55 pm »

I have no philosophy. I am who I am and do what I do in the way that I do it. I philosophy like crazy before or after the fact, but I think that's just me taking myself too seriously  Very Happy

I have all these crazy ideas before and after - but when it comes to the actual session(s) it seems that it all gets thrown out the window.

I have a funny quirk. It seems that I love every song that I record for people. When I'm recording I'm always like "wow this music is great!" I don't think I've ever recorded a band that I didn't think was making a hit record (I've yet to figure out why none of the records I've recorded have been hits  Rolling Eyes  ).

So I don't think of this as some kind of accumen you can follow, it's simply the way you are (or are not). But for me, what gets me out of bed is:

I love music (not judge it), I love people, and I take alot of pride in what I do.
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