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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2004, 09:45:01 am »

I've gotten good results with an AT4051 3ft back from the treble side F hole, and a direct feed from a Fishman transducer...blended to taste...
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2004, 06:07:51 pm »

Go PRO

Stick a 57 on it.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2004, 01:54:27 pm »

malice wrote on Fri, 23 April 2004 20:46

Been lucky with m269c, U48, U47 ...

and

a CAD, can't remember the model, not the big blue one, the one just a bit cheaper  (metal and black)...

Fletcher coul find the exact ref ...


malice


Perhaps you're aiming at the CAD E-100 (or E-200)!
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2004, 08:20:54 pm »

Just used my Gefell UM70 on bass this afternoon.  Very nice  Cool
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2004, 11:24:44 pm »

Usualy a sdc up top and a ribbon or ldc for the bottom.

Three mitigating issues.

The situation...in the room with a bluegrass band means mic choices with rejection in mind...ergo certain ribbons no go. Overdub or iso recordings are another, less tricky matter.

Next. Tone of the bass. 95% chance the instrument has massive inconsistancies with eveness..hence two (sometimes three) mics.

Final. Amount of dig vis-a-vis right hand and left. This approach to technique can make a world of difference to the tones and "bumps" in the sound of a doghouse.


Mics I use on Top (as in in my locker etc...)

Km 84/74
B&K 4011/4004 (4003 on occassion...there are some things that are different besides spl handling on these)
451's/ck
One side of an sm2 in cardiod
Sm81...yes this can work on certain toppy axes.


Bottom mics.
4038
Rode classic..the first edition.
DX77/DX77D
VL1 in wider cardiod
U48 in fig8 (room dependant)


Non locker mics I have enjoyed are the Lawson 47 and the Nuemann 149.

There are a few others that have worked but these are the go to choices in my little world.

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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2004, 09:52:44 am »

A BLUE Bottle with B7 capsule was my mainstay for quite a while, but I'm now stuck on a Klaus-modified 414EB.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2004, 12:53:41 pm »

otek wrote on Fri, 23 April 2004 09:52

Like Fletcher said, depends on what else is going on in the room.

I have used DPA 4011, Brauner Valvet, AKG C414TL-II, even a Sennheiser 441. I believe the best upright tone I have gotten was with the Valvet, but then the player was extraordinary.


Chuck Ainlay told me on the last Mark knopfler record (which never made it to print) that the Brauner Vm1A was the best upright bass mic had had ever used.  I was kind of bummed out by that, because I think its good for so many other things to be stuck there!    
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Han S.

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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2004, 02:35:08 pm »

A good sounding upright: LDC aimed at the bridge and a SDC at the fingerboard.

A 'boomy' sounding bass: ribbon!
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2004, 07:33:19 am »

Haven't tried that many but out of U87 (pretty much everywhere you can imagine), 414TLII, 441 and 451 in flat mode the winner was actually RE 20. It was almost like "point it anywhere and it still sounds good".

I also liked 451, U87 seemed to be lacking the real low end and compensating it with a proximity boost somewhere over 100 Hz, which was kinda ok, but not that good. 441 and 414 did nothing for me, D112 was much better...

RE20 also had a good thing that it did not bring in so much of our not so good room.

The same player also got a killer tone using Neumann M149 a few feet away from the bass in a deadish room.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2004, 12:55:53 pm »

I've used an RE20, 77DX, and an AT 4050, all with good results.  

Fletcher really nailed it, depends on what is left after putting up mics for the rest of the band and what the room is like.  Stand up bass is one of those instruments that is rarely recorded alone, from my experience, and the last thing I want on my bass track is banjo.  Well, I just did another bluegrass gig, but for jazz it is the same idea.

If available, I always take a line from the pickup and blend in the mix.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2004, 11:56:45 am »

My best results have always been with an AKG 414 BULS, 12-18 inches away, aimed roughly at one of the f holes about the height of the bridge.
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