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onekid

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Stand up Bass Mics
« on: April 22, 2004, 10:48:49 pm »

What current mics would you use to record standup bass in a jazz situation?
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2004, 12:00:26 am »

Depends on what else is happening and what else is in the room.  I've used everything from RCA 77's to tube 47's to an EV RE-15 in the peg to a Klaus Heyne modified M-49 with an M-269c in figure 8 in and "MS" configuration.

I reckon like anything else, it's a judgement call for what is thrown at you and what you have to throw back.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2004, 12:23:11 am »

I'm really into my Neumann KM86's, sometimes I combine with a ribbon depending on how much bleed is appropriate for the music.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2004, 04:37:39 am »

People bash the M147 a lot as a vocal mic but I've found it often works beautifully on upright bass.


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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2004, 04:52:21 am »

Like Fletcher said, depends on what else is going on in the room.

I have used DPA 4011, Brauner Valvet, AKG C414TL-II, even a Sennheiser 441. I believe the best upright tone I have gotten was with the Valvet, but then the player was extraordinary.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2004, 02:12:20 pm »

I've had great success with a 421 or an 87 for picked and a 414 or tube 47 for bowed depending on the instrument, the player, the room and what's left in the locker.

Recently I did a live date with an audio technica atm35 clip on that sounded great.  I've been meaning to try it in the studio but haven't gotten to it yet.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2004, 02:32:52 pm »

M269c, U95 or U89 with an occasional 84 or 184 at the fret board.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2004, 02:46:05 pm »

Been lucky with m269c, U48, U47 ...

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a CAD, can't remember the model, not the big blue one, the one just a bit cheaper  (metal and black)...

Fletcher coul find the exact ref ...


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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2004, 02:52:40 pm »

Just recorded an upright bass a couple of days ago, using the T.H.E. KP-6M omni - sounded wonderful.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2004, 05:28:38 pm »

every uprite I"ve ever tracked has sounded different. Every uprite player has been different. I usually start at the bridge and go from there.
U87, Lawson47, Neum tube 47. 451 on the fingers, schoeps on the fingers, km 140 on the fingers.
watch for phase shift combing finger and bridge mics.
Oh yeah km 83 taped on to the tail peice.

so fuggin' hard to get the right combo  with any sort of time efficiancy.

small rooms make it really hard to get a nice tone on such a big insturment.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2004, 06:08:25 pm »

I have had good luck with KM84i and U47
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2004, 06:48:17 pm »

I'm a fan of the THE KR-25A on upright bass, but then again I haven't found a lot of things that mic isn't really great for.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2004, 10:07:45 pm »

My only standup session to date was within in a quartet (2 classical guitars, drums w/brushes in iso) doing some bossa and sambas. I partioned everyone somewhat with gobos and miced Mr. Bass with a Lawson 47MP blended with a little grit and tone of the bridge pickup during mixing. I think it worked!... even for my novice AE abilities. I have a couple of those KR-25As I've used for the classical guitbox. Never thought of using it for the bass. Must get those jazzers back in here to try it.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2004, 12:21:14 am »

If the guy has a good sounding bass, a 421 aiming at an F hole is fine. If you have a U47, that's even better. I have gotten a great sound with an AKG 451....go figure.
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Re: Stand up Bass Mics
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2004, 04:43:15 am »

EV RE20 at the bridge/f hole hasn't been mentioned yet. Don't be afriad to get too close. I wouldn't use this for solo upright but it's pretty fool proof for ensemble recording. Better isolation than an LDC and it probably beats out a lot of them that can't hang with the U47 crowd. Just my two cents (I'm in a dynamic-loving, LDC-neglecting phase right now).
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