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[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Hi
I have heard good word of mouth concerning the new JBLs. Dynaudio has just released the BM6A mkII.

A few people have commented preferring the BM6A over the BM6A mk2. I don´t have any chances of testing both in my studio.

Any opinions here, among users of these monitors? IS the JBL calibration system a must?

Thanks

[Fletcher]

For what it's worth I've been digging the hell out of the Focal Twin 6's... my stuff has been translating really well!!

[brett]

The BM6A's have a better amp then the new mkII which is why you can still buy the BM6A's.

The new models go lower because of a larger volume cabinet, but at a sacrifice in gain. They changed the crossover point as well and lowered the tweeter from 100watts to 50. If you do go with the Dyna, the BM6A is the way to go not the BM6A MKII.

Haven't been able to get the cash together just yet, but BM6A and Focal solo6 are what I will be listening to side by side.  

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Here in Brazil we have heard that lots of  professionals in the US are changing for these auto-alignment capable JBLS. HOwever, it might be a marketing troll..

It is a pity Dynaudio business/dealers in Brazil is crap. We can not even test the monitors prior to buying!!

[estudiosvintagerock]

I'm too deciding between this too and also the Adam A7... any feedback ?

[brett]

estudiosvintagerock wrote on Wed, 13 June 2007 12:14

I'm too deciding between this too and also the Adam A7... any feedback ?

I think with the A7 you might need a sub so factor that into the cost.

[estudiosvintagerock]

Yeap.... but with the BM6A or LSR4326P no ????

[brett]

I think the BM6A hit pretty good on the bottom for a little speaker. Adams in general are not as thick on the bottom as Dyna. I have heard many complain about the low end on A7's not being present enough to mix with if your content has a lot going on at the bottom. Even the larger S3A's have a limter on the bass amp. On the other hand, many Dyna owners praise the low end of the BM series. I have heard the BM6A. They have a great low end for a small speaker and very usable for hip hop and dance music.  

Then again the A7's may help if you are mixing mid range critical music heavy with electric guitars and vocals. I have a pair of Mixcubes for that. I have heard Adam users say the Dyna's don't translate as well in the mids. They sounded pretty usable to me though.  

Never heard the LSR, but they have a digital converter in them and I didn't spend $3k on a A/D/A to listen to the converter in a JBL monitor. I did consider them until I added the right treatment in my room(Roxul 12"x4'x8' panels on the sides and rear, and 8" across the entire front wall) Now even my old crappy Roland monitors are giving me good mixes and translating. So the room is more important than the monitor. Once the room is right, then shop for monitors. I don't think the JBL EQ can fix dips and serious nulls. So unless your room is treated well, all monitors will sound off.  

I can see how the JBL's may help if you are constantly going to diferent rooms and a little eq might do the trick to create some uniformity for you, but in a permanant intalation I would shy away from monitors with digital conversion in them.

And like fletcher said, the focals are worth a look. The solo6 is only a few hundred more than the Monitors you are looking at.

[Eliott James]

Al Eliott James http://www.EliottJames.com     mixwell Sr. Member Offline Posts: 291 Re: Dynaudio BM6A x JBL LSR 4326 Hey Guys, Thought I would chime in on the Focal's. They are the smoothest monitors I have come across in my short lived life. As for the Solo 6's I have found that they translate well and are amazingly detailed and accurate. They really have great accuracy in the lower octave. I can really hear the full depth of the low end. It will force you to make changes you might not make with some other so called "reference" monitors. I find that I can listen loudly, for a longer period of time, and not get any ear fatigue!! This is a very, very important thing to me because I tend to not give myself any breaks while I am working. It's a work ethic thing! The stereo image is also very wide, you can sit in the mix position, while your client or producer can stand of to the side of you and still hear the same sweet spot. This can make your life a whole lot easier, I'm sure we have all had clients that hear shit that's not there, right??? Hence the Producer Fader!!!! The Twins 6's have a slightly different mid-range and low-end texture, simply because you have another woofer and amplifier taking care of the low end. The Twin's have a very cool feature, they have switches on the back that determine where the low end speaker will be, on the inside or the outside. It is all up to you. I like the low woofer to be placed on the outside. Should you decide to place them in a vertical manor, just inverted the switch and you will have the low end woofer on the bottom. It is all really up to your room and your sense of aesthetic. I have some clients who prefer to have the woofer under the mid-range, they claim the kick is more "out-front". This sort of mirrors speakers in the wall. check them out http://www.focalprofessional.com/en/products/SM6-home.html Adam Brass DSPdoctor adam@dspdoctor.com Alécio Costa - Brazil Hero Member Offline Posts: 791 Re: Dynaudio BM6A x JBL LSR 4326 Still eager to read more opinions about these jbls... Alécio Costa Studio High-end Mastering, Music Production http://www.aleciocosta.com Listen to my album at: http://www.audiostreet.net/aleciocosta MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/aleciocostamasterizacao diamondjim Newbie Offline Posts: 5 Re: Dynaudio BM6A x JBL LSR 4326 I bought a pair of LSR 4328's 4 months ago and find them very detailed. I have to be careful to listen to my mix on my secondary monitors (Alesis M1 MK2's) which tend to sound dull compared to the JBL's. While I used the RMC I am not convinced that it has helped as much as they claim. I can switch it in and out with little noticable effect. I recently added bass traps to my front corners, and will try the eq treatment again. The Focals sound great, heard them at TapeOpCon, very nice but a bit pricier. The JBL's I got for under $1300, and they also sound wonderful compared to under $800 monitors I had been using. I am thinking about adding the sub-woofer, and maybe later some 4326's as satellite speakers for surround mixing. "Diamond Jim" Hewitt (ASCAP) Barn Jazz Music Productions www.barnjazz.com Alécio Costa - Brazil Hero Member Offline Posts: 791 Re: Dynaudio BM6A x JBL LSR 4326 I have been using Monitor Ones since 1996. MK2 is better, has a more solid bass range, although it has some 5k-8k bump. The passive models also sound better. Alécio Costa Studio High-end Mastering, Music Production http://www.aleciocosta.com Listen to my album at: http://www.audiostreet.net/aleciocosta MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/aleciocostamasterizacao brett Hero Member Offline Posts: 1114 Re: Dynaudio BM6A x JBL LSR 4326 diamondjim wrote on Tue, 19 June 2007 18:55 The Focals sound great, heard them at TapeOpCon, very nice but a bit pricier. The JBL's I got for under $1300, and they also sound wonderful compared to under $800 monitors I had been using. I am thinking about adding the sub-woofer, and maybe later some 4326's as satellite speakers for surround mixing. that is the thing, once you buy the sub you've spent as much as the solo6's and more than the Dyna BM6A. Both the Dyna and Focals will yeild about 3/4's of an octave more usable bass then the 4326 and the 4328 is not much better. That 40-55hz range is important for hearing the bottom of your kicks and bass lines. 55hz roll off gives you some of C1 but you don't feel or hear the lower fundamentals of that note. you end up turning them up higher to feel them and hear the lower fundamentals as they are being rolled off. Thus, you fatigue your ears more quickly. I am looking forward to hearing the solo 6 and dyna's side by side in my room.   I never liked the monitor ones. they sound tubby with a ton of port chuff when you turn them up. But the active alesis monitors will go deeper then the jbl 4300 too. Alécio Costa - Brazil Hero Member Offline Posts: 791 Re: Dynaudio BM6A x JBL LSR 4326 Brett, what is "port chuff"? I twice tested the Active Monitor Ones and they have a very weird/funny low/low mid. We A/b them with a set of passive MK2s fed by a Tascam PA150 and the difference in sound quality was considerable! Alécio Costa Studio High-end Mastering, Music Production http://www.aleciocosta.com Listen to my album at: http://www.audiostreet.net/aleciocosta MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/aleciocostamasterizacao Print Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up « previous next » R/E/P Community > R/E/P > R/E/P Archives > Fletcher > Dynaudio BM6A x JBL LSR 4326   SMF 2.0.19 | SMF © 2021, Simple Machines | Terms and Policies XHTML RSS WAP2 Site Hosted By Ashdown Technologies, Inc. Page created in 0.049 seconds with 19 queries.

[mixwell]

Hey Guys,


Thought I would chime in on the Focal's.

They are the smoothest monitors I have come across in my short lived life.

As for the Solo 6's
I have found that they translate well and are amazingly detailed and accurate.

They really have great accuracy in the lower octave. I can really hear the full depth of the low end. It will force you to make changes you might not make with some other so called "reference" monitors.

I find that I can listen loudly, for a longer period of time, and not get any ear fatigue!! This is a very, very important thing to me because I tend to not give myself any breaks while I am working.
It's a work ethic thing!

The stereo image is also very wide, you can sit in the mix position, while your client or producer can stand of to the side of you and still hear the same sweet spot.

This can make your life a whole lot easier,

I'm sure we have all had clients that hear shit that's not there, right???

Hence the Producer Fader!!!!

The Twins 6's have a slightly different mid-range and low-end texture, simply because you have another woofer and amplifier taking care of the low end.

The Twin's have a very cool feature, they have switches on the back that determine where the low end speaker will be, on the inside or the outside. It is all up to you. I like the low woofer to be placed on the outside. Should you decide to
place them in a vertical manor, just inverted the switch and you will have the low end woofer on the bottom.

It is all really up to your room and your sense of aesthetic.
I have some clients who prefer to have the woofer under the mid-range, they claim the kick is more "out-front". This sort of mirrors speakers in the wall.

check them out
http://www.focalprofessional.com/en/products/SM6-home.html

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Still eager to read more opinions about these jbls...

[diamondjim]

I bought a pair of LSR 4328's 4 months ago and find them very detailed. I have to be careful to listen to my mix on my secondary monitors (Alesis M1 MK2's) which tend to sound dull compared to the JBL's.

While I used the RMC I am not convinced that it has helped as much as they claim. I can switch it in and out with little noticable effect. I recently added bass traps to my front corners, and will try the eq treatment again.

The Focals sound great, heard them at TapeOpCon, very nice but a bit pricier. The JBL's I got for under $1300, and they also sound wonderful compared to under $800 monitors I had been using. I am thinking about adding the sub-woofer, and maybe later some 4326's as satellite speakers for surround mixing.

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

I have been using Monitor Ones since 1996. MK2 is better, has a more solid bass range, although it has some 5k-8k bump. The passive models also sound better.

[brett]

diamondjim wrote on Tue, 19 June 2007 18:55

The Focals sound great, heard them at TapeOpCon, very nice but a bit pricier. The JBL's I got for under $1300, and they also sound wonderful compared to under $800 monitors I had been using. I am thinking about adding the sub-woofer, and maybe later some 4326's as satellite speakers for surround mixing.

that is the thing, once you buy the sub you've spent as much as the solo6's and more than the Dyna BM6A. Both the Dyna and Focals will yeild about 3/4's of an octave more usable bass then the 4326 and the 4328 is not much better. That 40-55hz range is important for hearing the bottom of your kicks and bass lines. 55hz roll off gives you some of C1 but you don't feel or hear the lower fundamentals of that note. you end up turning them up higher to feel them and hear the lower fundamentals as they are being rolled off. Thus, you fatigue your ears more quickly.

I am looking forward to hearing the solo 6 and dyna's side by side in my room.  

I never liked the monitor ones. they sound tubby with a ton of port chuff when you turn them up. But the active alesis monitors will go deeper then the jbl 4300 too.

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Brett, what is "port chuff"?
I twice tested the Active Monitor Ones and they have a very weird/funny low/low mid. We A/b them with a set of passive MK2s fed by a Tascam PA150 and the difference in sound quality was considerable!