R/E/P Community

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Pages: 1 2 3 [All]   Go Down

Author Topic: zero point gravity  (Read 6269 times)

maxdimario

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3811
zero point gravity
« on: May 21, 2007, 01:33:45 PM »

someone I met who works in aerospace told me that there are machines which work with anti-gravity or anti-inertia already in r&d with some proven results..

not sure how it works.

has anyone heard about this?
Logged

Tomas Danko

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4733
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 01:44:38 PM »

Yes, but smoking dope is illegal in most places these days.
Logged
http://www.danko.se/site-design/dankologo4s.gif
"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

maxdimario

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3811
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 01:47:31 PM »

what is it with you guys? I'm not kidding.
Logged

Phuckwit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 37
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 02:00:43 PM »

There are loads of designs out there, the most promising flying saucer was designed by British scientists of course working for the British equivalent of NASA, as follows:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4801928.stm
Logged
Regards.?:*??*:?. ??.??¯`?.Mark Fairfax-Harwood, Engineer Springvale Studios
http://www.springvalestudios.com

CHANCE

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4584
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2007, 02:06:58 PM »

I heard (but take it with a grain of salt) that a lot of technology was reverse engineered from space craft (from other worlds) found at area 51. LOL
Logged
Chance Pataki
The Musicians Workshop
musicians.workshop@gte.net
http://www.the-musicians-workshop.com


A person is a biological signal processor--EQ mag

Tomas Danko

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4733
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 03:03:47 PM »

maxdimario wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 18:47

what is it with you guys? I'm not kidding.


It sounds a bit unfinished, beyond the scope of some tiny experiment showing some promising numbers. As cool as it sounds I remain a sceptic.
Logged
http://www.danko.se/site-design/dankologo4s.gif
"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

Jon Hodgson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1854
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 03:37:18 PM »

Phuckwit wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 19:00

There are loads of designs out there, the most promising flying saucer was designed by British scientists of course working for the British equivalent of NASA, as follows:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4801928.stm



There's no mention of "anti gravity" here, rather of using the acceleration to simulate gravity for the occupants... it keeps accelerating "up", which means the occupants feel they are being pushed "down", so they feel like gravity is present even when it is not.. because they are in space.
Logged

Phuckwit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 37
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 03:53:18 PM »

Oh ye of very little faith here is a pic of a top secret British space ship. Very hush hush.
It defies not only gravity but also logic. index.php/fa/5198/0/
Logged
Regards.?:*??*:?. ??.??¯`?.Mark Fairfax-Harwood, Engineer Springvale Studios
http://www.springvalestudios.com

Jon Hodgson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1854
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 04:16:40 PM »

Ah yes, now the pricing logic of British train tickets really does seem to be some new branch of mathematics, so maybe it will lead to antigravity!
Logged

Phuckwit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 37
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 05:05:36 PM »

Quite so Jon here is a picture from a recent launch attempt in Cumbria arranged by a team of expert rail track maintenance operatives, in which a large number of passengers claimed to have experienced weightlessness:
index.php/fa/5199/0/
Logged
Regards.?:*??*:?. ??.??¯`?.Mark Fairfax-Harwood, Engineer Springvale Studios
http://www.springvalestudios.com

Jon Hodgson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1854
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2007, 05:41:05 PM »

Phuckwit wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 22:05

Quite so Jon here is a picture from a recent launch attempt in Cumbria arranged by a team of expert rail track maintenance operatives, in which a large number of passengers claimed to have experienced weightlessness:
index.php/fa/5199/0/


A railtrack link that doesn't work...

now why am I not surprised?


Logged

maxdimario

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3811
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2007, 05:58:11 PM »

it's not the same thing I heard.

it has to do with energy at the atomic level I have no understanding of it but it seems to work in a limited fashion...

Logged

Tomas Danko

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4733
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2007, 06:38:29 PM »

Jon Hodgson wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 22:41

Phuckwit wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 22:05

Quite so Jon here is a picture from a recent launch attempt in Cumbria arranged by a team of expert rail track maintenance operatives, in which a large number of passengers claimed to have experienced weightlessness:
index.php/fa/5199/0/


A railtrack link that doesn't work...

now why am I not surprised?



The link must have derailed on its way here.
Logged
http://www.danko.se/site-design/dankologo4s.gif
"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

compasspnt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 16266
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2007, 06:51:46 PM »

Gravity is by far the weakest of "our" natural forces.

If you guys can't figure out how to defeat it, then you must be a bunch of weaklings.
Logged

Careful Collapse

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 321
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2007, 07:06:23 PM »

Right.  That NOVA special PBS made said something along the lines of, 'Even with the entire force of Earth's gravity, a child can pick up an apple with ease.'


And then broke into theories of multiple dimensions...
Logged
Billy V
I have my very own space on the nets http://www.myspace.com/carefulcollapse

dcollins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2815
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2007, 08:28:28 PM »

http://www.amazon.com/Hunt-Zero-Point-Classified-Antigravity /dp/0767906276

The author, Nick Cook, writes for Jane's defense and is not a tin-foil-hat guy.  I read this book several years ago, and there does seem to be something going on here.  It doesn't go into too many specifics, just to say that there are classified programs looking at ZPE, and that the MOD denies all knowledge of it!

DC

jimmyjazz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1885
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2007, 11:46:54 PM »

Back when the company I work for was just a fledgling startup (as opposed to our current status of being a fledgling commercial entity, 14 years down the road), we shared office and lab space with a former Stanford physics prof who mostly works on Zero Point theory and applications.  As I understand it, Albert Einstein predicted the Zero Point Field, and that it has been proven to exist for many years.  (The Casimir effect, in which very short atomic-level "energy wavelengths" are excluded from the space between two very closely-spaced metal plates, thus causing a force which collapses the plates into each other, is an example.)

At any rate, this guy was committed to making ZPE "flight" possible.  Obviously, he hasn't succeeded, but he had a long history of black project work with the government back in the Cold War, including leading the DoD lab at Stanford which explored, among other things, claims of remote viewing and mind/physical interactions.  He is definitely way out there.
Logged

Larrchild

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3972
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2007, 01:03:20 AM »

Quote:

claims of remote viewing and mind/physical interactions

I've been to that webcam site. The things that woman can do with a ping pong ball. The men seems to enjoy it, though. $5 for 15 min.
Logged
Larry Janus
http://2ubes.net

maxdimario

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3811
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2007, 05:33:33 AM »

that's wild.

could be as far as I am concerned.. there are a lot of issues which deal with atomic and subatomic particles and energies which are very difficult to grasp, but they exist.

I'm sure the world was shocked in the 40's when the A-bomb came along.

Logged

CHANCE

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4584
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2007, 08:44:20 AM »

Isn't there some old guy in Florida who built a castle with hudge stones that he moved without any machinery? The boulders are the size of a bus and no one knows how he did this (anti gravity?)
Logged
Chance Pataki
The Musicians Workshop
musicians.workshop@gte.net
http://www.the-musicians-workshop.com


A person is a biological signal processor--EQ mag

Tomas Danko

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4733
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2007, 09:15:08 AM »

dcollins wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 01:28

 http://www.amazon.com/Hunt-Zero-Point-Classified-Antigravity /dp/0767906276

The author, Nick Cook, writes for Jane's defense and is not a tin-foil-hat guy.  I read this book several years ago, and there does seem to be something going on here.  It doesn't go into too many specifics, just to say that there are classified programs looking at ZPE, and that the MOD denies all knowledge of it!

DC


And how is this technology working for you in mastering?

I expect you to deny all knowledge of this.
Logged
http://www.danko.se/site-design/dankologo4s.gif
"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

Jay Kadis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2165
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2007, 10:31:09 AM »

jimmyjazz wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 20:46

Back when the company I work for was just a fledgling startup (as opposed to our current status of being a fledgling commercial entity, 14 years down the road), we shared office and lab space with a former Stanford physics prof who mostly works on Zero Point theory and applications.  As I understand it, Albert Einstein predicted the Zero Point Field, and that it has been proven to exist for many years.  (The Casimir effect, in which very short atomic-level "energy wavelengths" are excluded from the space between two very closely-spaced metal plates, thus causing a force which collapses the plates into each other, is an example.)

At any rate, this guy was committed to making ZPE "flight" possible.  Obviously, he hasn't succeeded, but he had a long history of black project work with the government back in the Cold War, including leading the DoD lab at Stanford which explored, among other things, claims of remote viewing and mind/physical interactions.  He is definitely way out there.


Was that at Stanford University or the nearby SRI International?  SRI was/is involved in a lot of odd research projects.  They're a private institution funded by grants from pretty much anywhere.  Stanford University is a bit more "mainstream."

danickstr

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3641
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2007, 11:00:22 AM »

can i get the ping pong ball site?

Gravity is the 4th dimension, and will not be defeated by silly human.
Logged
Nick Dellos - MCPE  

Food for thought for the future:              http://http://www.kurzweilai.net/" target="_blank">http://www.kurzweilai.net/www.physorg.com

compasspnt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 16266
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2007, 11:13:17 AM »

I long for a planet that we can live and walk on, but can not be subjected to this gravity.

What a good feeling it will be to walk around outside in our blue yards without being held so tightly.
Logged

CHANCE

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4584
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2007, 12:17:29 PM »

Also, without gravity there will be no effect on our bodies as age creeps in. I reciently saw a video of me 20 years ago and I look in the mirror now and I can see how constant gravity has affected my appearence (AKA old timers desease)
Logged
Chance Pataki
The Musicians Workshop
musicians.workshop@gte.net
http://www.the-musicians-workshop.com


A person is a biological signal processor--EQ mag

Tomas Danko

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4733
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2007, 12:24:00 PM »

CHANCE wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 17:17

Also, without gravity there will be no effect on our bodies as age creeps in. I reciently saw a video of me 20 years ago and I look in the mirror now and I can see how constant gravity has affected my appearence (AKA old timers desease)


Really?

I was under the impression that high gravity makes for a healthier product.

We are talking about brewing ale, right?
Logged
http://www.danko.se/site-design/dankologo4s.gif
"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

Jay Kadis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2165
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2007, 01:40:47 PM »

compasspnt wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 08:13

I long for a planet that we can live and walk on, but can not be subjected to this gravity.

What a good feeling it will be to walk around outside in our blue yards without being held so tightly.



Just be sure to hang onto those keys, lighters, guitar picks...

As the astronauts can tell you, gravity has its uses.

jimmyjazz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1885
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2007, 01:48:22 PM »

Yes, it was SRI.  I believe he did teach at Stanford as well.  Dr. Puthoff is somewhat of an enigma -- he is a legitimate force in classical physics research, and yet he has spent much of his career looking into things most of us would consider complete bunk.  In fact, he continues to do so, as one of his current lab's functions is the near-daily defeat of various "free energy" claims.  I give Puthoff credit for maintaining an open mind while diligently disproving these claims.
Logged

Jay Kadis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2165
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2007, 01:58:37 PM »

jimmyjazz wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 10:48

Yes, it was SRI.  I believe he did teach at Stanford as well.  Dr. Puthoff is somewhat of an enigma -- he is a legitimate force in classical physics research, and yet he has spent much of his career looking into things most of us would consider complete bunk.  In fact, he continues to do so, as one of his current lab's functions is the near-daily defeat of various "free energy" claims.  I give Puthoff credit for maintaining an open mind while diligently disproving these claims.


Dr. Puthoff collaborated with a researcher I worked with at SRI in the '70's investigating plant telekinesis.  Small world.  I think they debunked Uri Geller as I recall.

bblackwood

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7036
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2007, 02:00:53 PM »

CHANCE wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 07:44

Isn't there some old guy in Florida who built a castle with hudge stones that he moved without any machinery? The boulders are the size of a bus and no one knows how he did this (anti gravity?)

http://www.coralcastle.com/home.asp
Logged
Brad Blackwood
euphonic masters

jimmyjazz

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1885
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2007, 02:09:29 PM »

Small world, indeed.  I spent a lot of time picking Dr. Puthoff's brain back in the day.  He is a fascinating guy.

Here is a link describing some of his current work:

Earthtech/IAT
Logged

CHANCE

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4584
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2007, 07:54:47 PM »


bblackwood wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 11:00

CHANCE wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 07:44

Isn't there some old guy in Florida who built a castle with hudge stones that he moved without any machinery? The boulders are the size of a bus and no one knows how he did this (anti gravity?)

http://www.coralcastle.com/home.asp




Amazing! These are the first views I have ever seen of this. How did he drill that hole in that 9 foot stone gate? I can't seem to get those movies to play yet. That little man sure holds some secrets that many would like to know.
Logged
Chance Pataki
The Musicians Workshop
musicians.workshop@gte.net
http://www.the-musicians-workshop.com


A person is a biological signal processor--EQ mag

Tidewater

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3816
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2007, 10:11:36 PM »

I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation.

www.thunderbolts.info

paste it, yo.


M
Logged
Time Magazine's 2007 Man of the Year

dcollins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2815
Re: zero point gravity
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2007, 01:04:41 AM »

Tomas Danko wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 06:15


And how is this technology working for you in mastering?



By running a Q equal to the square root of -1, I can actually get final ref approval before I even receive the masters.

Quote:


I expect you to deny all knowledge of this.


Naturalment.  But I will balance it with a nerdy joke:

What did the philandering string-theorist say to his wife?

"Don't worry honey, I can explain everything!"

Har!

DC


Pages: 1 2 3 [All]   Go Up
 

Site Hosted By Ashdown Technologies, Inc.

Page created in 0.044 seconds with 16 queries.