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andshesbuyingastairway

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SSL wiring
« on: May 20, 2007, 05:44:28 PM »

is SSL hand-wired point to point or is neve the only op-amp based channel to do so?\

also in the same light, are all soundelux microphones PTP as well?
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zmix

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2007, 10:16:43 PM »

The SSL channel is assembled using printed circuit boards.
So are Neve consoles. All of them.

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2007, 11:52:04 PM »

are there any op-amp designs that use PTP?
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Andy Peters

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 05:06:06 AM »

andshesbuyingastairway wrote on Sun, 20 May 2007 20:52

are there any op-amp designs that use PTP?


My breadboards are done with point-to-point wiring, unless they're boards with the high-speed current-feedback devices, in which case we just make PCBs because we like it when things don't oscillate.

I can't imagine that anyone handwires anything that's in production these days.

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2007, 09:49:09 PM »

d.w. fearn, chandler

i guess people that don't want to use little monoblock caps and resistors
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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 12:15:58 AM »

andshesbuyingastairway wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 21:49

d.w. fearn, chandler

i guess people that don't want to use little monoblock caps and resistors



Chandler use PC boards, so do Fearn (the limiter uses a MOSFET PC board that was designed by another company.)

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2007, 01:59:20 AM »

can i ask where you got your information?


"Most of Chandler's products are based on vintage EMI or Neve modules and every product manufactured is completely hand-assembled and hand-wired in the USA using point-to-point wiring. "

http://www.chandlerlimited.com/chandler/review_2004_01_00_pr oar_01.php

"Q. Is it an all-tube circuit?

A. Yes. The audio path is entirely through Class-A triode tube circuitry. All of my products are hand-wired using point-to-point techniques."


http://dwfearn.com/faq.htm#alltube


maybe i'm missing something.
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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 04:21:02 AM »

andshesbuyingastairway wrote on Mon, 21 May 2007 22:59

maybe i'm missing something.


A point to all of your questions?

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 09:12:45 AM »

andshesbuyingastairway wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 01:59

can i ask where you got your information?

Well, I have a Chandler preamp/EQ on my bench right now.

It's got PCBs in it.

-Put it this way, I'd wager my HOUSE on a bet that it's not point-to-point.

-And I don't gamble.

But then that's not a gamble... -It's a cast-iron guarantee.
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andshesbuyingastairway wrote

maybe i'm missing something.

A point to all of your questions?


I'd have to say that the sheer number of questions which you ask raise a red-flag in the first sentence is pretty impressive. -PCM70's using discrete op-amps? -Just one example that springs to mind.

Talk about focusing on the irrelevant.

This is not intended as a slam, but PLEASE try to understand what I'm trying to get across: posting questions with such a clear half-grasp of the importance of different factors SCREAMS that you READ about sound much more than you LISTEN.

You've READ or been TOLD that these things have an influence: point-to-point wiring, discrete topology, whatever. I'm not going to disagree, but as a tech I've worked on TONS of stuff and listened to it. As an engineer, I've recorded and mixed number one singles and albums. Do I care about any of the stuff you're asking about? -Not even slightly. I would estimate that the influence is about 1 percent. And it won't ever fix bad sound or poor playing.

Focusing to this degree (with such an impressively small post-count) on a seemingly 'random' array of scarcely-important details, in a forum which is more oriented towards getting things working and KEEPING them working WELL tends to suggest that:

1) You're new to this. (nothing wrong with that. We all were once.)

2) You're on the wrong track. (Take a hint. Listen.)

3) (This is the painful one... it's my personal impression, and not a hard fact by ANY means) you may be the type of person who isn't actually very well suited to this sort of subject. -Sorry.

I know I'm not a 'policeman', so I have no mandate to say that sort of stuff, but I'm reading between the lines of other posters, and I think I'm just expressing what others may also be feeling. Apologies to all if I'm wrong.

Keith
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MDM (maxdimario) wrote on Fri, 16 November 2007 21:36

I have the feeling that I have more experience in my little finger than you do in your whole body about audio electronics..

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2007, 04:10:16 PM »

Keith,

Thank you for giving the young man a reality check. As I've stated elsewhere, I've coined the term "Gear Hypochondria" to account for this pervasive chatter.

-CZ

PS: The next time you are in NYC let me know. I'll buy you a pint or three!

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2007, 04:23:14 PM »

post a picture of the chandler circuit
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ssltech

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2007, 05:32:13 PM »

Post a picture of a twenty dollar bill. Then send me the bill so I can check its authenticity.
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MDM (maxdimario) wrote on Fri, 16 November 2007 21:36

I have the feeling that I have more experience in my little finger than you do in your whole body about audio electronics..

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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2007, 07:22:22 PM »

Keith you poor poor bastard you. Confused

You will selflessly take the time to elaborate in a long reply what everyone else is thinking but dont have the time or inclination to. To make things worse I'll bet that your message will likely end up on deaf ears, pun INTENDED.
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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2007, 07:25:07 PM »

I am also willing to bet that the poser errr..... I mean Poster in question is a guitar player as the whole PTP wiring thing seems to be a selling point with the boutique guitar amps.
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Re: SSL wiring
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2007, 08:10:06 PM »

andshesbuyingastairway wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 21:23

post a picture of the chandler circuit


In all honesty, you should take his word for it.

We all do.

There is a reason for us doing so.

This guy is trustworthy.

Or, as they would say at Banjo Center:

He is The Shit.
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