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[drumsound]

Whatcha hiding in the rack drawer?  

[j.hall]

four smokey amps

[tubejay]

Hey J.

I saw your post over at the Lab about the GSSL, and popped over here.  I used to be a member a while back, but never registered again when everything switched.  

Anyway, I looked around, but couldn't find out what tape machine you've got there.  Is that an old scully?  It's got a very unique head/transport assembly.

Your place is looking good!

[j.hall]

it's a 3M M79, it's been modded moderatly and despite a few quarky bugs it's got, the deck sounds really good.

[craig boychuk]

Ooooohhhh, multi-echo. I love those things so much... they make stuff sound cool even in bypass!!!  Everyone goes off about the Roland Space Echo, but the Multivox has it beat!

...imo...

[j.hall]

oh yeah

a friend has a space echo...his sounds cool, but it's different from the multi-echo.

we use both from time to time....different aux sends, for different things.

[j.hall]

against my better judgement.  i'll post this.

people have been wanting to hear something i've mixed in the new room.

i'm doing some test mixes on my bands record right now.

all the tracks were cut in about 4 different studios....it's starting to be a real mess if you weren't along for the ride from the start (4 years ago)

anyway.

i typically mix records in the sequencial order of the album.

so, track 1 being a little intro piece that doeesn't have bass yet, i started with track 2.

i've test mixed this song about 8 times....so i'm a bit jaded on it at this point.

still needs some tweaks but it's pretty close.

(side note, this is a m4a file, i ripped it as a test to see if it sounded any better then mp3's, you need quicktime to play it, i think)

http://download.prosoundweb.com/~j.hall/Raygun3.m4a

go ahead and comment all you want.

you won't hurt my feelings in the least.

[spankenstein]

No iTunes on my Linux workstation here at work.  

[j.hall]

try this one.

http://download.prosoundweb.com/~j.hall/Raygun4.mp3

[craig boychuk]

Kick drum sounds awesome. I like how it has lots of extreme low end, but doesn't get in the way of anything. Personally, I would up the bass guitar a bit, but it's nestled in there pretty nicely. Just a personal preference, I guess.

[j.hall]

thanks man....i appreciate the comments.

i'm having trouble with the mids....something isn't right in there.

i think it's in the bass.  not sure i need to turn it up, maybe just get some 200 - 300 back in it.  that alone will "bring it out"

i can hear full extension down to about 45 Hz in my new room......that is becoming dangerous on big rock songs like this.

some how, i managed to get that kick doing what it does, with out too much damage to the whole mix.

now if i could just afford some B&W 802's....i could hear down to 35 Hz.

hahahahahaha

[craig boychuk]

No prob.  

I'll bet some 200 would be tasty indeed.


Yeah, it's weird when you first get  full (or close[r] to full) range monitoring...it made me a little unsure of myself, being able to hear all that low end...like it was too good to be true!

[drumsound]

I'd put a flanger on that guitar break in the intro...


I still love that song!

[Beezoboy]

Jay. . .

I don't know if comments on you mix were what you wanted? But. . .

The dry screamy vocal in the beggining doesn't work for me. Maybe if it were lo-fi telephone sounding or something else like it is in the end. The snare could be a little more wet too. The delay on the "sung" vocal that occurs after the dry one needs the delay only on the last word because I can't understand what the phrase is from the delay. Or maybe do a slapback kinf od delay. Those thend to be less noticable except on the ends of phrases.

The cymbals, particularly when he plays the hats in chorus, are really pumpy and/or phasey. Checking the mix in mono really brings it out.

Lastly I think when the vocals are doubled in the end (where they say my raygun in unison) you might try putting some delay on them for impact.

Sorry its a cool song so I couldn't resist.
Beez

 

[ajcamlet]

Hey J:

I just ran thru this whole thread, and congrats on your new space. I've been doing the exact same thing for about the last three months, and i could absolutely relate to every step of your progress. I'm just starting to suss out some mixes now, as soon as i was able to, i started doing overdub sessions as i was still completing the rest of the wiring (and painting, and cleaning, and problem solving, etc..etc..)

Interestingly i'm also thinging it may be time for some new monitors I'm using Dyn Bm6's with P3000 and am starting to feel a little ambivalent about them.. but for now they will stay - Gotta get some $$ rolling in!!!

Best
ajc