Fibes wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 17:58 |
el duderino wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 16:24 | when was riflery last taught in, lets say england? how many shootings do they average per year?
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Proof that it is easy to dismiss a point out of hand when it does not easily fit into ones personal agenda.
It's a sign of the times, not of the access.
Would anyone like to discuss the ease of which guns and ammunition can be made illegally? How much more do you think they will be worth when guns and ammo become scarce.
This is a societal problem, not a gun problem.
Remember that McVeigh thing?
Let's outlaw Ryder trucks.
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ryder trucks? come on dude. mcveigh was using bombs, not guns.
i did not dismiss your point. In fact you didnt really respond to anything i said. just something asked.
As for the times, yes it plays a part. But easy and unnecessary access is a much larger part.
I just did a google search for gun statistics in england (which actually shows as England & Wales btw) and for multiple years on several sites it ranged from about 160 to 250 per year.
Doing the same search for the US showed that roughly 30,000 people die from gun violence each year. it goes up to about 35,000 some years.
Now the population for england and wales is about 60 million and here we're at 300 million. so multiplying theirs by 5 at the high end seems fair. 30,000 to 1250.
does it solve it? no. but its a hell of a lot better.
as for making guns and ammunition illegally, yeah it can happen and does. if it were scarce the price would rise dramatically which is a good thing. less could afford them which means less guns which gives the
potential for less violence.
ever heard that joke about if bullets cost a million dollars each? i think it was chris rock, not sure.
on a side note, I think Tik and Phuckwit should start a band. id totally go see that.