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[bigaudioblowhard]

Are we not the only nation on earth who must suffer school shootings over and over while the 900 pound gorilla giggles in the corner unnoticed?

bab

[Fibes]

bigaudioblowhard wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 11:14

Are we not the only nation on earth who must suffer school shootings over and over while the 900 pound gorilla giggles in the corner unnoticed? bab

When marksmanship/riflery was taught in schools there were no school shootings of this ilk.

Your point was?

[studiojimi]

Fibes wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 09:07

bigaudioblowhard wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 11:14 Are we not the only nation on earth who must suffer school shootings over and over while the 900 pound gorilla giggles in the corner unnoticed? bab When marksmanship/riflery was taught in schools there were no school shootings of this ilk. Your point was?

talk about sniping!

[Jay Kadis]

The immediate impetus might be to address guns, but mental health is the real root of the problem.  School can be a very stressful environment when you don't fit in.  This guy was clearly identified as having mental problems.  More than gun control, we really need a functional mental health system.

[bblackwood]

bigaudioblowhard wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 10:14

Are we not the only nation on earth who must suffer school shootings over and over while the 900 pound gorilla giggles in the corner unnoticed? bab

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

While we certainly have a majority of those schools here in the states, we are by no means the only nation who must suffer through such  horror...

[Kris]

Not the only country... http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/school-shootings/

Tell us about this Gorilla?

[el duderino]

its alot harder to kill 32 people with a knife.

or a bow and arrow. or a rock. or.......


i understand that some people want guns for protection, and some have reason for it such as if you live way out in the country and it would take a long time for help to arrive. however, in a place such as NYC, or a college town with a few hundred thousand people, there really is no need. You have police nearby which when combined with proper mental health treatment and much less guns you'll have alot less problems.

when was riflery last taught in, lets say england? how many shootings do they average per year?

[Phuckwit]

I tend to concur but it should also be pointed out that the lack of ammunition dispensing machines in favor of soda machines and snack dispensers of all kinds in US educational establishments has lead to stressful overcrowding, obesity and frustration and with all the target practice available in the limited spare time of todays student and keen NRA member, finding a way up the class average via attrition may well require a more robust attitude to ammunition availability balanced against the higher mobility
of the targets. Historically speaking It would be quite unconstitutional and very un American to let intelligence and academic prowess win over against "might is right".

[Fibes]

el duderino wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 16:24

when was riflery last taught in, lets say england? how many shootings do they average per year?

Proof that it is easy to dismiss a point out of hand when it does not easily fit into ones personal agenda.

It's a sign of the times, not of the access.


Would anyone like to discuss the ease of which guns and ammunition can be made illegally? How much more do you think they will be worth when guns and ammo become scarce.


This is a societal problem, not a gun problem.


Remember that McVeigh thing?


Let's outlaw Ryder trucks.

[rankus]

Fibes wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 14:58

Remember that McVeigh thing?

The Osama attack cover up?  (IMO)

[wwittman]

people with guns kill more people than people without guns do.

America isn't going to get rid of guns... but it would be nice if the right-wing gun nuts would ADMIT that the price we PAY for that is this sort of random occasional gun violence.

[Die BREMSSPUR]

Phuckwit wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 22:48

I tend to concur but it should also be pointed out that the lack of ammunition dispensing machines in favor of soda machines and snack dispensers of all kinds in US educational establishments has lead to stressful overcrowding, obesity and frustration and with all the target practice available in the limited spare time of todays student and keen NRA member, finding a way up the class average via attrition may well require a more robust attitude to ammunition availability balanced against the higher mobility of the targets. Historically speaking It would be quite unconstitutional and very un American to let intelligence and academic prowess win over against "might is right".

Nicely done...

now...

brush your teeth!

[Die BREMSSPUR]

wwittman wrote on Wed, 18 April 2007 01:07

people with guns kill more people than people without guns do. America isn't going to get rid of guns... but it would be nice if the right-wing gun nuts would ADMIT that the price we PAY for that is this sort of random occasional gun violence.

They would be super retarded if they couldn't exterminate more with a pump gun than a stick.


I like how their bodies aren't even cold and the subject is gun control....

It makes me ill....

Some idiot on NPR was blaming Bush and the assault rifle ban.

What a jackass....



lemme nough

[Phuckwit]

Nicely done...

now...

brush your teeth![/quote]

Thanks awfully for the kind words and advice, speaking of gunfire I must once again unreservedly apologize to our German cousins about the unfortunate misunderstanding between my great uncle Henry and the Herr Langsdorff in the approaches to the river Plate a little while back but I feel that it should be pointed out that the first shot was in fact fired by Herr Langsdorff and at a calibre of 381mm seemed rather threatening at the time.
Also my stepson James would like to apologize to our American cousins about his
great great granddad Philip's little problem with the USS Chesapeake and although we turned it into a flour mill my family would be quite happy to return the timber and several of the deck fittings in exchange for the return of our new world estates you now call Virginia and we will show you how to run it. Who the hell is this chap George Bush, funny the last George my family had any proper dealings with was called Washington but now I hear you have a rather common little Texan ranch hand running the place, no wonder its a bloody mess, same as it is here now, democracy eh! never quite got the hang of it myself. Dominion!  Now that's the Fairfax watchword.

[Taproot]

Sorry, but riflery secured  US independence from England when the bastards went too far. Good lord, No one needs the police to come and "save" the back half of your family from being killed. By the time the cops arrive, game over.

I saw a gun wandering the streets aimlessly the other night, Thank god it didn't have   a fool behind it.

Wake up.

el duderino wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 14:24

its alot harder to kill 32 people with a knife. or a bow and arrow. or a rock. or....... i understand that some people want guns for protection, and some have reason for it such as if you live way out in the country and it would take a long time for help to arrive. however, in a place such as NYC, or a college town with a few hundred thousand people, there really is no need. You have police nearby which when combined with proper mental health treatment and much less guns you'll have alot less problems. when was riflery last taught in, lets say england? how many shootings do they average per year?