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Kev - Pure

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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2007, 11:22:14 AM »

Hi,

long time lurker, 1st time poster. You might be interested to know that Alchemy Soho in London are using a DMM lathe converted to lacquer cutting by Sean Davies, if my memory serves me correctly this lathe came from Tape One.

As for the rumours of a DMM lathe in France, one of the guys here was speaking to a sales rep @ MPO (a large French 12" manufacturing plant), and they said they are setting up to do 7" again and will be doing their own mastering.

However as nice as the reps are, they wouldn't know mastering from processing. I am planning on speaking to them later to clarify the situation and will update you.

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Kev
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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2007, 11:30:19 AM »

MPO was my first guess*, but they don't mention anything about it online.

[*considering the source of the comment was a techno list and MPO does a lot of pressing for those labels]

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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2007, 11:35:31 AM »

I've just got some more info off Kevin:

Our VMS82 was originally bought by Ronnie from Heathmans who went out to Russia with Sean Davis and bought 3 of them.

Kevin bought one off Ronnie in 1997 and had it converted from DMM to lacquer in 1998 by Sean. Apparently it was a nightmare because the suspension unit for the head had to be completely rebuilt to cope with lacquer cutting. So a guy from the Ministry of Defence, of all places, borrowed one off Sean and reverse engineered it, and built us a new one...fun times!

I'd imagine at least one of Heathmans' and possibly Alchemy's lathe  were among those 3 from Russia.

Also regarding the earlier mention of Vinylium, we had our spare cutter head repaired by Flo there and it was a great job, and pretty decent pricing as well considering the rarity of the parts. I'd recommend him any day!

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2007, 12:02:33 PM »

Interesting stuff folks.  It's kind of like train spotting but for some reason I'm fascinated by all this.

Man, I really miss getting to work on a lathe - and a DMM one at that.  Wish it made economic sense to try and bring back publically available DMM cutting to the USA - but unfortunately it doesn't as far as I can suss it.  

Just to be more complete in our listings here -
the only places I know of making DMM blanks still are:
Optimal - http://www.optimal-online.de
Portal Space Records - http://www.portalspacerecords.com
& I'm not sure but I think GZ also makes their own blanks too.

Anyone know of anyone else.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

Kev - Pure

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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2007, 12:11:51 PM »

Eventually managed to track someone down @ MPO "in the know" who confirmed that they do not have any cutting facilities and he is not aware of any plans to introduce it.

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Kev
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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 12:58:51 PM »

Streaky wrote on Thu, 29 March 2007 11:35

So a guy from the Ministry of Defence, of all places, borrowed one off Sean and reverse engineered it, and built us a new one...fun times!



That's impressive. Most of the conversions just used a spare susspention from a 66/70/80.

The DMM dynamicaly controls the cutting angle of the stylus and the vacuum pressure of the chip removal. That stuff needs to be removed for lacquer cutting. A stylus heater circuit needs to be addded. I think that's about it for the lathe. The SAL rack has the same boards but many componants need to be added/removed/changed. I haven't been involved with a conversion so I may have left parts out.
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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 02:58:50 PM »

Hi,

afaik there are much more DMM´s made then 12.

here are two other ones in Germany:

http://www.pauleracoustics.de/

Vinylum sold their lathe to one guy in
Munich i heard.

greetings

Andreas

Schnittstelle
Mastering & Vinylschnitt
Frankfurt - Germany





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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2007, 03:01:10 PM »


anway to find out the real amout of DDM lathe sold by Neumann

i will ask (or write because he is deaf)

Mr. Fuchs from Ex-Neumann (the guy who repaired the cutterheads
for years)

greetings

andreas

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TotalSonic

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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 03:12:02 PM »

Andreas -
Thanks much for the link and information.  I knew I was missing a few - but while I agree that more than 12 were made I'm pretty sure there were fewer than 20 made though.   I'm looking forward to hearing what you're contact says about this.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2007, 02:04:26 AM »

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So seems there are one or two "missing" based on that list.  Anyone care to fill in the blanks?




I know where there are two fully working machines(not being used)

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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2007, 10:54:56 AM »

Hi Jason,

Do you know where these two working machines are?

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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2007, 02:45:40 PM »

TotalSonic wrote on Thu, 29 March 2007 00:51

Gold wrote on Wed, 28 March 2007 19:36

The lathe cabinet went to Korea to be used as a turntable.

Kind of the equivalent of putting a 57 Strat behind glass instead of having some gifted musician make beautiful sounds with it.


Hehe, Asians like this stuff. I've heard Japanese audiophiles buy old UTC & Triad iron for insane $$$$$..
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Re: 'new' DMM facility?
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2007, 10:02:08 PM »

Viitalahde wrote on Tue, 17 April 2007 14:45


Hehe, Asians like this stuff. I've heard Japanese audiophiles buy old UTC & Triad iron for insane $$$$$..



The WE 111C transformers I got had the original cloth covered solid core jumpers on them. I was told not to throw them away because they increase the value and make them sound heavenly. I threw them away.
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