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[Larrchild]

Turn off auto-updates, and reboot.

Oh sorry.
Wrong Windows thread.

[danickstr]

Custom C/R windows are not in stock at local glass shops.  A fab shop would charge you thousands to make one that could ship.

So to answer your original question, I do not think there are C/R window suppliers, since it really is a custom thing.  

you could order two argon windows 3 x 5 in vinyl from Home Depot (or whatever)and nail each one to one side of either wall.  That would be a store bought solution that could get you out of the weeds.

[New Orleans Steve]

   Sorry, No offence to people with other opinions I just can’t really see anyone thinking that a Security Camera, or LCD,/Plasma could ever compare with a proper studio window.
 Heck, run the wires home and tel commute. That just really dehumanizes the whole think.

Could be good for business. Hay, Fletcher, Can you take a noon session over iCam. These kids just need there ass kicked!

Steve

[tom eaton]

http://www.pelonissound.com/

Chris builds modular studios and would probably be a good one to talk to about sourcing a properly made custom window.

I have a glass place around the corner from me that provided me 1/4" laminated glass for my windows... 4 panes for each window, two in each wall, with varying air space between.  Works very well.

Pretty much any commercial glass place can get you useable glass if you want to do it yourself.

t

[Vertigo]

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Any SUPLIERS out there?

Use your phone book, you'll find dozens.

Call EVERY supplier in your area and get a quote. You'll be surprised at the differences in price. For my CR I used two 7'x4' panels. The quotes I received were anywhere from $210-$675. I went with the $210 quote, as Fletcher said - glass is glass.

Be sure that your panels are of two different thicknesses (mine are 1/2" and 3/4"). This way the panels will vibrate at different frequencies and diffuse more sound.

I used 1x1 "tracks" lined with felt to mount mine in place. As long as the glass is mounted tightly you shouldn't have any problem with rattling, especially if the glass is big and heavy.

-Lance

[Gone]

New Orleans Steve wrote on Sun, 18 March 2007 00:44

Sorry, No offence to people with other opinions I just can’t really see anyone thinking that a Security Camera, or LCD,/Plasma could ever compare with a proper studio window.  Heck, run the wires home and tel commute. That just really dehumanizes the whole think.

I don't understand...

When I'm in the Control Room, I'm really hoping the artists are NOT paying any attention to me. I hope they're NOT looking at me, and just as happy if they (more or less) forget I'm there... Isn't that the whole studio vs live vs rehearsal space argument anyway? My interaction with the artists is face to face, between takes and during breaks. I don't do much over the talkback except 'rolling' and 'stand by'... Why do they need to see me?

I'd prefer to have a camera / LCD system, where I can switch their side off (so they can't see me) and let them play the f***ing music. Nothing worse for performance than artists who are too interested and distracted by what's happening in the CR.

BTW - during sessions, I ALWAYS dim the CR lights lower than the LR anyway (for the same reasons), so the LCD idea just takes that further.

[Tomas Danko]

In my previous studio I had a remote to control the different kinds of light (lava lamps, small spotlights aimed towards the walls, regular bright lamps in the roof) and I did just like you during vocal sessions, lowering the lights in the control room so that it was very dark. I had an uplight in the recording room with a dimmer so that the vocalist could get the mood light desired.

What I also did was to always position the singer facing to the left, turned 90 degrees from the window. This way he/she can't see me when performing but I could still make sure distance and all of that was in check.

And between the takes I could have immediate eye contact while coaching. I consider this to be one of the most important things when producing.

I've never had a problem with this, and shy vocalists just had me slide over to the corner of the control room where se could barely see eachother. That is, he/she couldn't see me at all. But I could.

[Fibes]

I've done both and I prefer glass. Sometimes you need the artist to see you and looking at the delay from a monitor is a total mindfuck. A great performance will look off...

laminated glass is the way to go. I had two windows built 6'-8" x 3'-0" which were built by a window shop for cheap. we actually have four panes of glass at various thicknesses and as mentioned earlier, clean then seal.