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[Joe_caithness]

So, I got myself one of these cheap on a whim and I'm just setting in with it.

Who's used one? they are quite unique.

They aint clean and musical, but they can be used very clinically, not a single band sounds "nice", whereas on my Sontec clone, sometimes it's too nice! It has attitude, but it's not destructive, I guess what I'm saying is when you move the knob you go "ahh it's boosting that freq" whereas on my Sontec clone is more like "is this boosting, it sounds too nice!?".

Nice ying and yang going on.

So far I am only really using it to boost subs and deep low end, because it seems to do it so well. It's a difficult area to get right, plugins dont sound "there", and my Sontec clone has too much colouration when you boost more than a whisker. It affects how you can hear the sub moving, which isn't good at all.

It seems when boosting bass with this thing it has enough grit to make it sound harder and more there, but at the same time sticks to it's point of boost, not much smooshing of the lower mids, stays dynamic and dry.

This morning I had my first "eureka!" moment using it, when I had a track which sounded cold and lacked any real bass down low at all. I took a medium Q notch on the orban and found the fundamental area where the kick boomed and the bassline moved, and did a little notch, then took a super wide Q shelf boost at 0.5dB on the sontec clone a little further up..the eqs are doing the opposite, together, to get the result need....

.... the result was more bass where it needed it, but with a nice gelled sounding "warm" mix, with a touch of low end colouration, but with heaps more BOOM where it needed it.

[Tim Boyce]

I had one ... sold it to a better home.

Had it moded by Jim too new PS, DC coupled, new caps, swapped card order, etc ... still didn't like the sound.



The HPF is gold. so is the LPF, but I used that one less. I almost kept it just for the HPF.

It was a PITA to stereo match sides. Had to always run tones or it would skew the image badly. It was a very 'feelie' EQ. (in that you can easily tweak in by feel with the bandwidth and veneer).

It sounded way too filtery for me. .. even at wide bandwidths, it was just too heavy-handed. I could see it being useful on a parallel run if you have an insert console. or really nice in a mix environment. Add some grit/ filter sound to a guitar, drums etc ..

I wouldn't use it on voice or strings.


I never dug the low-end. too bumpy, grimey. Maybe it was just that unit .. but even for hiphop, didn't have the cleanness or control I needed.

I would take a single module with the HPF/LPF though! Cleaned stuff up nicely. It would probably be kicking as an (overkill) side-chain. If you thought of the compressor as a dynamic EQ instead of as gain management.


 

[Ben F]

So far I am only really using it to boost subs and deep low end, because it seems to do it so well. It's a difficult area to get right, plugins dont sound "there", and my Sontec clone has too much colouration when you boost more than a whisker. It affects how you can hear the sub moving, which isn't good at all.

That's interesting as a real Sontec or GML doesn't have that problem...and I know the low end was copied from the GML 8200 (without the op-amps of course). I was just about to build one to try but another project caught my interest. May be worth experimenting with different op-amps on the summing unit, the Forsell op-amps are meant to be cleaner.

[Joe_caithness]

It's not a problem, it's just how it sounds. A character of an EQ which doesn't work for me could be the character you use on every track, horses for courses.

[jdg]

had one too. the low headroom was a PITA.
was really interesting and sometimes even useful

[SafeandSoundMastering]

not a single band sounds "nice"

Hmm.. might have to put that one down to experience.

[phonon]

How about using it as a fancy side-chain eq?   Screw pass filtering.  Notch that limiter.  º_º





Andrew

[Joe_caithness]

Hmm.. might have to put that one down to experience.

What do you mean?

[dietrich]

what is the noise floor level when you put this eq 'in'?
is it worth using until you mod it a bit in the chain?

[SafeandSoundMastering]

If it does not sound nice in any band as you mentioned whats the point of it ?

[Joe_caithness]

Why you gotta be so snarky mate? If you don't want to contribute to a thread, then don't, I'm not posting to amuse you.

And any idiot understands what inverted commas round a word means. You are just being a bitch for no reason whatsoever.. utterly pointless waste of everyones time.

[Joe_caithness]

what is the noise floor level when you put this eq 'in'?
is it worth using until you mod it a bit in the chain?

Hey man, yeah it's fine! I've run some soft music through with tonnes of headroom, boosted with the eq and other parts of my chain are also making some gain, no problems, this hasn't been modded, and it looks like no one in the UK is up for it, unless someone can tell me otherwise.

It does what it does pretty good as it is, but I'd be interested in seeing how far someone could take it

[dietrich]

Hey man, yeah it's fine!

I was also curious what the noise floor might be in better than -70?

[Joe_caithness]

So..

I've been thinking a lot about my set up, what I've realised is this thing actually slows down my wofkflow and although it sounds good, probably isn't going to get the use it deserves, so I'm going to move it along.. gear is a journey, not an absolute!

So if anyone is interested, Im gonna sell it for what I bought it for and just find it a happy home.

here is the GS sale thread if you want to pop any questions in, or email me

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslutz-secondhand-gear-classifieds/658265-orban-642b-blackface-400-pounds-uk.html