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PieterS

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What about Klein & Hummel O400?
« on: February 01, 2007, 01:59:20 PM »

I searched the forum and only found info on the K&H O300(D). Is there anyone using the O400's for mastering? I am told you can't get them anymore in the near future, but my dealer has some in stock for a fair price. I will audition them against a pair of O300's soon, but maybe some of you already has experience with these speakers?
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Re: What about Klein & Hummel O400?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2007, 09:37:10 PM »

Having heard them side by side for a bit, I'd pass.

IME, the O300 are a lot better than the 400.  The 400 is an older design in their line, perhaps being phased out or readied for replacement because they're a bit superfluous to the 300s.

In the grand scheme of things, you could probably do much worse than the 400, but the comparison is not likely to favor them.

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Re: What about Klein & Hummel O400?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2007, 09:04:27 AM »

They are very different in design according to the K&H website. Can you tell a bit more about what you didn't like about the O400?
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Re: What about Klein & Hummel O400?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2007, 03:45:50 PM »

PieterS wrote on Sat, 03 February 2007 09:04

They are very different in design according to the K&H website. Can you tell a bit more about what you didn't like about the O400?

Honestly, it's been a few years, so I barely remember more than the overall feeling that I didn't like them as much, but I think it was mostly that they weren't as "flat"-sounding (maybe a bit brighter than the 300s) and that the 300's low end response was a bit clearer and tighter (the 400s are ported, 300s not).

But still ..  if you can compare them at your place, it might be something you hear completely differently.

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Re: What about Klein & Hummel O400?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 09:44:32 PM »

Slightly off topic...

Anyone ever heard the K+H O 500?

They sure look good on paper.

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Re: What about Klein & Hummel O400?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 08:23:52 PM »

I've heard the 500, but not in my studio (at an AES show booth before the hall opened up)-- They were actually pretty impressive despite the non-favorable listening environment, and despite my little bias against the notion of having AD/DA and DSP in the path.  

FWIW, I ended up with Geithain RL901Ks after a more thorough in-studio tryout, but the 500s did seem like someone could justifiably think highly of them.  And for the price, they'd pretty much have to.

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Re: What about Klein & Hummel O400?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2007, 04:05:36 AM »

dave-G wrote on Mon, 05 February 2007 20:23

 little bias against the notion of having AD/DA and DSP in the path.  
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Same bias here too.

Can't we simply go straight in analog? (I will look it up on their site)

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Re: What about Klein & Hummel O400?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2007, 06:30:34 AM »

Oldfart wrote on Tue, 06 February 2007 04:05

dave-G wrote on Mon, 05 February 2007 20:23

 little bias against the notion of having AD/DA and DSP in the path.  
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Same bias here too.

Can't we simply go straight in analog? (I will look it up on their site)

Yes, but no...  You can go in analog (lundahl transformer balanced input, IIRC), but it feeds the AD converter, as all crossovers are DSP (FIR).  I believe it even does some kind of gain-ranging to the conversion to ensure lower input levels get plenty of dynamic range, but by the time I start to understand that, my mind drifts to "Now is ze time en schprockets ven ve danse"

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