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Alécio Costa - Brazil

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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 08:43:10 am »

They should get rid of the poly cone woofer..
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2007, 05:03:32 pm »

The MKII looks very similar to the BM6A. It seems that the biggest differences are the controls in the back. I'm curious if threre is more.
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 05:34:24 pm »

Viitalahde wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 08:43

They should get rid of the poly cone woofer..


I thought DynAudio drivers were pretty well respected... what would be a better sounding/performing option?  

I can't remember a pro DynAudio monitor that had any other kind of mid/bass driver.

Curious...

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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2007, 11:33:25 pm »

? 50 watt to the tweeter as opposed to 100 watt on the 1st series, yet the x-over point is lower (1500 instead of 2200)

Ummmm..........

? are those the same Chinese amp that are in the BM5As, which aren't the same as in the 6As

Ummmmmm.............


Food for thought

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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2007, 05:08:22 am »

tom eaton wrote on Fri, 19 January 2007 22:34

I thought DynAudio drivers were pretty well respected... what would be a better sounding/performing option?


I used to own BM6A's, but now I realize the 2k region (near the crossover point) was too soft sounding and can make you EQ a little sharp.

Don't get me wrong, BM6A's are still good speakers, but they really should try a good paper cone woofer or quite possibly some sort of a rigid cone solution. It's like there's a difference in resolution between the tweeter and the woofer.
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2007, 08:15:54 am »

Viitalahde wrote on Sat, 20 January 2007 11:08

Don't get me wrong, BM6A's are still good speakers, but they really should try a good paper cone woofer or quite possibly some sort of a rigid cone solution. It's like there's a difference in resolution between the tweeter and the woofer.



I agree. To my ears too, this is the achilles' heel of these otherwise very useful nearfields.

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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2007, 09:09:08 am »

present wrote on Sat, 20 January 2007 23:15

Viitalahde wrote on Sat, 20 January 2007 11:08

Don't get me wrong, BM6A's are still good speakers, but they really should try a good paper cone woofer or quite possibly some sort of a rigid cone solution. It's like there's a difference in resolution between the tweeter and the woofer.



I agree. To my ears too, this is the achilles' heel of these otherwise very useful nearfields.

Rogier


I don't think the poly cone is really a key factor in the 6A's sound. In my room the 6A's with a Benchmark DAC-1 & a DD12 sub is a great combo. I don't find that the 6A's are lacking in the 2kHz range, in fact I often find myself EQ'ing out some of that range on  harsh mixes & rarely adding it.

The Dynaudio drivers are used in the C4 & most of the Duntech/Dunlavy range of speakers & these are all highly reverred so they must be doing something right with their drivers poly or otherwise... Smile

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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2007, 09:28:36 am »

Mathew, do you se the BM6A for mastering? I could not see the model of your monitors at your homepage.
The just released BM12A is more powerful than the BM6a/BM6aMK2.
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2007, 11:48:56 am »

Matt_G wrote on Mon, 22 January 2007 15:09

I don't think the poly cone is really a key factor in the 6A's sound. In my room the 6A's with a Benchmark DAC-1 & a DD12 sub is a great combo. I don't find that the 6A's are lacking in the 2kHz range, in fact I often find myself EQ'ing out some of that range on  harsh mixes & rarely adding it.


Well, to be fair Matt, the 6A's I currently work with are placed behind the meter bridge of a humongous 70's console, so that's probably not the best situation for a good evaluation.

Still like 'em though. Good for long mixing sessions.

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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2007, 07:34:19 pm »

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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2007, 09:35:06 pm »

can you give me more tips about this velodyne?
Thanks
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2007, 10:57:58 pm »

I use a pair of Velodyne DD12s in my room and absolutely love them - they extend down to 17Hz and integrate very nicely with my mains (crossed over at 36Hz,mains run full range). Hard to find any fault with them, honestly...
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2007, 04:05:02 am »

i saw the mkII's at NAMM, one of the sales reps there actually told me that he thought the older BM6A'a sounded BETTER.
i have mixed on the BM6A's quite a bit and really like them.
i tried to listen to the mkII's at NAMM....but seriously, can you even hear yourself think at NAMM?
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2007, 02:47:15 am »

bblackwood wrote on Tue, 23 January 2007 13:57

I use a pair of Velodyne DD12s in my room and absolutely love them - they extend down to 17Hz and integrate very nicely with my mains (crossed over at 36Hz,mains run full range). Hard to find any fault with them, honestly...



Hey Brad, when are you going to upgrade your DD12's for 2 of these?
http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/products/product.aspx?ID=3& amp;sid=745s222s

That would seriously get some air (& the walls) moving Very Happy

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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2007, 06:58:25 am »

Matt_G wrote on Wed, 24 January 2007 01:47

bblackwood wrote on Tue, 23 January 2007 13:57

I use a pair of Velodyne DD12s in my room and absolutely love them - they extend down to 17Hz and integrate very nicely with my mains (crossed over at 36Hz,mains run full range). Hard to find any fault with them, honestly...



Hey Brad, when are you going to upgrade your DD12's for 2 of these?
 http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/products/product.aspx?ID=3& amp; amp;sid=745s222s

That would seriously get some air (& the walls) moving Very Happy

Holy crap!

I suppose if I mastered in an arena that would be useful...
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2007, 08:14:04 pm »

Love the BM6as for mixing, wouldn't use them alone for mastering, there is loss of detail in the low/mids around 500Hz that can pose serious problems. Mixes do translate on them very well. They compliment larger mid fields such as the ATCSCM50s, that have incredible midrange/low end detail.
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Re: Dynaudio releases BM6AMKII and BM12A
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 05:36:19 pm »

2500Watts RMS!!!

BTW.. I emailed the Dynaudio folks what some MEs think about the BM series.
I am still curious about this BM12A.
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nice reply from Area Sales Manager for TC Electronic and Dynaudio Acoustics
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2007, 02:11:54 pm »

a)"Dynaudio is on of the only (maybe the only) manufacturer of high end monitors, who also manufacture their own drivers. Dynaudio used to sell to MANY other speaker manufacturer (like Klein&Hummel, and Wilson, and many hifi manufactures) but have closed a lot of the OEM business down as it is too small."

b)"The new 6A has not much in common to the old one - and is also cheaper.Bigger models has more bass - so if that's what you need - go for the 12A. "

c)"BBC did the most analytical approach of choosing speakers when they moved: Dynaudio beated the competition - one reason is that they sound like a family - many other speaker manufactures a big model sounds very different from a small one - meaning they don't have a clue of what they do - or they cannot source the drivers they need, as they have to buy them in China. Dynaudio drivers are hand made in Denmark - Dynaudio has a sound that is similar form the AIR25 to the bm%a compact. In other words - you can trust them, which is what its all about when using a monitor!"
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