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RSettee

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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2007, 11:18:34 am »

As far as booze goes, i'm usually well advised to stay away from it before any important sessions or gigs. I get pretty messy, I can't do alot better in a rock context that I can comfortably pull off all the time other than a Keith Richards/ Johnny Thunders.

Thunders...speaking of drugs, now there's a guy who truly wasted his talent, so to speak. When he was on and sober, no one could touch that guy at what he did, and unfortunately, most of what we have is tenth generation live gigs of him trying to pull off the genius on "LAMF" live. I have a DVD, "In Cold Blood", where it's a complete trainwreck--he can't remember the chords, forgets lyrics, can't even keep his guitar strap on, and sings while on the floor at one point. Hey it's Thunders, but it really is kinda embarrassing and painful to watch. In that case, you really would have wished that he had a better set of friends and hangers on that didn't promote that stuff, because it affected him quite inversely. When you can't remember how to play the songs, it's time to kick the habit.
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2007, 12:22:25 pm »

but then there is also exile on main st...
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2007, 01:24:18 pm »

ziggy wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 09:22

but then there is also exile on main st...


This has been hinted at before...

but about 1% of humans have no boundaries and maybe these drugs just push them down a different avenue. It must be stated again, though: as genius as they were, how much more genius could they have been.

edit: another thing to take note of. Appearances can be deceiving for show. Think Babyshambles...

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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2007, 01:55:35 pm »

Tomas Danko wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 02:25

 
Ps. If you do Reggae, dub or minimalistic electronica, please ignore this message and carry on as usual.


Funnily enough  - King Tubby, the originator and only genius of dub, didn't partake of the Ganj and I have heard smoking was banned in his studio too...
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2007, 01:59:42 pm »

i agree with Terry on this one.  if you think drugs help make music, you should try making music without drugs.

i don't think people should use any type of drug in general.

being a creative artist is a natural talent, and i don't think drugs should/can enhance it.
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2007, 02:38:54 pm »

Ibogaine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine

Apparently it somehow 'resets' drug addicts to the way they were before being addicted, minus withdrawal symptoms and with some sort of spiritual journey revisiting the reasons that led them to becoming addicts...

Don't know if thats true but interesting if so..

Might not be good to have any before that lead guitar take
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2007, 03:06:53 pm »

drugs are kind of lame.

but man, listening to music in a dark room on a head full of acid. nothing beats that. i haven't done it in 10 years now. but i have great memories from it. and in fact, drugs helped me love music even more. especially hallucinogens. I think weed and psychedelics is great for enhancing the listening experience. but not for creating. but i just out grew it all. i got tired of it, and it got old. and the side effects of them are completely undesirable.  but no way would i trade in my acid days. acid really made me hear music in a way that was beyond the soul.

i think if you still do drugs in your 30s. well, thats lame. its time to grow up in different ways, your body doesn't recover as fast from it. and it interferes with your life. bad.

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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2007, 03:09:11 pm »

Sorry to go all hyperactive on this thread  but I'm stuck at home and a trifle bored.. (skipped driving to the studio today due to a major Euro storm here today - falling trees, death, destruction, chaos etc..the advice was stay indoors today)

Its raging away outside my window right now:
 http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/01/18/europe.storm.ap/i ndex.html

Anyway - I JUST remembered an exception which was a session at Tuff Gong in Jamaica I did with a musician who had his own personal assistant / roadie there whose job was apparently to bring him in a loaded bong whenever the energy level seemed to wane - he'd disappear in a big cloud of smoke, get a big grin on his face and lay down some more overdubs ...

I have to say it DID seem to give him an energy & ideas boost....

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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #68 on: January 18, 2007, 03:13:22 pm »

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   thttp://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/r/quote/true/213 851/2606/itle=hexfix93 wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 21:06]

i think if you still do drugs in your 30s. well, thats lame. its time to grow up in different ways, your body doesn't recover as fast from it. and it interferes with your life. bad.


My dear old Mom once said a really perceptive thing which was she thought it made way more sense for elderly people to be potheads than for young people to be tokin' and getting all sluggish
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #69 on: January 18, 2007, 03:22:03 pm »

there is a mighty wind

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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2007, 07:50:35 pm »

wwittman wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 23:07



if you have residue from your orgasm I don't think I want to be in the control room with you.
or shake your hand.




LOL!  I almost spit beer all over my doobie!

I used to smoke pot occasionaly.... I still do... but I used too as well.

But seriously:  Not when I'm on the clock and I try to gently discourage musicians from doing so while tracking....
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« Reply #71 on: January 18, 2007, 08:00:04 pm »

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Well, weed can sometimes be beneficial to your career....

Alternate caption:  What would a thread like this be without the maaaaaaan ... himself

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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #72 on: January 18, 2007, 09:13:28 pm »

if THIS is representative of teetotaler rockers' behaviour, they might want to consider taking a hit or two:

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/01/18/526934-rockers-inau gural-act-creates-stir

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« Reply #73 on: January 18, 2007, 09:29:09 pm »

Ah Man!! Not him again! He keep s canceling his Guitar lessons. He's not getting his Money back either..  Rolling Eyes

{sorry}

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« Reply #74 on: January 18, 2007, 10:23:06 pm »



the scariest quote from that article:

" "Ted Nugent is a good friend of the governor's...""
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