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compasspnt

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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2007, 10:34:43 pm »

Barish wrote on Wed, 17 January 2007 20:32

Tomas Danko wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 01:25

As for everything else I do in the studio, I pass on stimulants and such.


Except for coffee. (Waiting for someone in Bahamas to comment any moment now)



Hey, serve a coffee to Terry one afternoon and see for yourself how sobering experience it is.


Been there, done that too..


Ummm...

That was green tea, my friend.

Even if it was from Starbucks.
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2007, 10:44:30 pm »

i know and work with quite a few guys who smoke weed and drink
i think some of them are super super talented
actually a couple of them are downright scary good
now whether their weed smoking contributes to their genius or not is highly questionable
i just think that they like it and have grown into wanting it
i think weed is as mentally addictive as any drug

i know for myself clarity is everything
looking back on my drug DAZE days, i think did some damn good work, in spite of myself
but
in learning my boundaries and myself
i find i like the results with open ears so to speak
i realize looking back that
every time i smoked or did a line of blow
my ears would close down
so taking away any patronizing judgements, my ears plain would shut down
so i now realize that i was over compensating for whatever was happening
on a creative level, i think when one finds that being high is not as great as being into what is really real, i think at that point in life some wonderful realizations happen and
things tend to change drastically as far as lifestyle
but going back to my original statement
i think certain people have a constitution that allows them to function while on whatever the drug of choice might be
it is not for me to judge, i just know what works for me
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2007, 10:47:45 pm »

Who knows what those creative people would be like without the stimulants?

Even better perhaps?

Shoe salesmen?
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2007, 10:54:13 pm »

Recording high is a waste of time and money. I always find that the tracks sound disappointing the next day if the band is high. Engineering while high is IMPOSSIBLE in my opinion. Of course, a lot of my experiences have been live recording, which is like walking a tightrope with an armload of razor blades. NOT something you want to do high.

Just leave it alone.

Best Regards,

Bill
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2007, 11:30:04 pm »

ryan wrote:

"So does smoking weed -

a) Make you a better musician/producer/engineer"

no, that's talent and skills

"b) Make you think you are a better musician/producer/engineer"

no, that's alcohol and cocaine

"c) Make you a worse musician/producer/engineer"

no, that's alcohol and heroin

"d) Different for everyone"

what isn't?

"e) All the above"

only if you want it to



as a doctor/musician/smoker, my opinion is that marijuana increases the "anxiety", and, therefore, alertness to detail

this may account for the ability to spot the otherwise obscured faults within a system

however, the flipside to attention to detail is the lack of overall perspective

imo, that gets lost under the influence
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2007, 11:31:42 pm »

if you make a record while straight that sounds good to you and it still sounds good when you're fucked up, then it is good. but, it never happens the other way around.

Noel Gallagher said some words to that effect and i suspect he's right.
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2007, 11:32:01 pm »

doc wrote:

"Drugs can only bring negative results in life and in music"

as someone who makes a living from prescribing drugs, i must disagree

appropriate medication is the key
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2007, 11:35:18 pm »

the drug that most affected my creativity in a positive fashion was psilocybin ('magic mushrooms')

just one great trip is all it took to clear some of brain's illusions
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2007, 11:38:21 pm »

"as someone who makes a living from prescribing drugs, i must disagree"

With respect, I think you missed my point.  
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2007, 11:48:43 pm »

with respect, a blanket statement like that is what makes kids turn off good advice
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2007, 11:55:42 pm »

I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2007, 11:57:00 pm »

maxim wrote on Thu, 18 January 2007 15:48

with respect, a blanket statement like that is what makes kids turn off good advice


Wasn't Doc's context obvious in this thread?
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2007, 11:58:33 pm »

ross wrote:

"now whether their weed smoking contributes to their genius or not is highly questionable"

what do they think?

i'd like to ask terry what proportion of the artists going through his studio smoke marijuana on a regular basis and how many do it when playing music
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2007, 12:00:26 am »

I'm voting "None of the above"


I don't think that on the whole it ever has a positive effect*, but I also don't think it often has a negative effect.

when it DOES have a negative effect it's in the area of concentration - I've certainly seem things fall apart because someone decides to go of on a fool's errand of some sort.
Sort of the musical 'munchies'.


*the asterisk is because I DO think some people perform (or write) better when they're RELAXED.
And if it takes a drink or a smoke to relax, well that CAN make for a more productive flow.

I've seen both.

but again, on the WHOLE, I think that drugs (of which alcohol is only one more; I make no artificial distinction) only make you see things differently.
Not better OR worse.


ps I know some FANTASTIC musicians who almost never record without a little alteration, and I also know some fantastic tee-totalers.
I think it's equally unfair to suggest that either would be better going the "other way".
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Re: Musicianship/Engineering and Weed.
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2007, 12:01:50 am »

glenn wrote:

"Wasn't Doc's context obvious in this thread?"

can you delineate the difference between prozac and ecstacy?
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