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[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Hi,

I have been using the following chain for some time:

Pre EQ PSP MAster Q >> DAW AES OUT Digidesign 192 IO Digital >> Hedd 192 d/a >> Crane Song Ibis EQ >> Pendulum OCL2 (with physical sidechain) >> Crane Song STC8 >> Hedd 192 a/d >> Pro Tools HD Digidesign 192 Digital AES In> Daw ( PSP Neon HR M-S Mode > PSP Master Q > PSP Xenon > TC BW Limiter II from MD3 Suite).

I have considered two ideas:
a) Doing M-S in analog chain, thus the need to add a second analog EQ;

b) Adding a second Eq in stereo mode after the STC8, prior to Hedd a/d stage;

I am still not sure which idea would provide me better results.

I am more than satisfied with the present chain, but we are always trying to improve a bit.

As a second EQ, I have considered buying:

1) another Ibis EQ ( already accustomed to it).. although seems weird picking same brand/mode/sound...

2) Millenia NSEQ unmodded. No logistics to buy, send to FF, wait and so...

3) Avalon 2055 ( People have pointed me in the past as sounding hifi, pillowed low end).

I would like to buy something fancier like the Buzz Audio EQ or a GM EQ, but are out of my budget!

Any ideas are greatly welcomed!

Thanks in advance!

[lowland]

Hi Alécio,

A nice little problem to have!

How fixed is that budget? I see the Great River MAQ-2NV is $4350 at Mercenary and Sweetwater, so presumably you could find one second hand more in your range (they do come up from time to time) if you couldn't stretch to new.

I can't praise this EQ highly enough, and am continually surprised it's not much more prevalent in mastering than it is - it has little in the way of a downside and much to recommend it, such as being all-switched, having a stereo link mode and, most importantly, a lovely sound that also somehow manages to be neutral. Although I haven't used the Ibis personally, from what I hear I would imagine the two would complement each other well - if you liked the MAQ I imagine you'd then be set EQ-wise for some time to come.

[Laarsø]

How about you hire Jaakko to make a Barry Porter clone?  With two different irons switchable?  Then add Dangerous Sum Difference.  Patch and hard bypass, as needed.  I'd rather see you have two analog eq's in the chain than two compressors.  But, with High Passed side-chain, is less compromise and more solution.


Cheersø,
     Laarsø

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Thanks, Laarso.
In fact I rarely take more than 1db of gain reduction with each compressor.

Barry Porter EQ clone could be great!

And what is your opinion about my question II, the second EQ doing M-s in analog world x  additional  ST EQ after Stc8, prior to Hedd a/d?

I guess you have already answered it, mentioning the M-S Matrix...

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Hi, Nigel
Millenia Nseq-2 , Avalon 2055 or even a second Ibis EQ could be great and are under the U$3500 ceiling!

Brad, what is your opinion considering the second EQ doing Analog M-S xthis same  Stereo EQ after the STC8, prior to Hedd a/d?

[lowland]

Hi, Nigel
Millenia Nseq-2 , Avalon 2055 or even a second Ibis EQ could be great and are under the U$3500 ceiling!

I'm sure you're right, Alécio, though I don't know those EQs. I guess the MAQ will just have to remain 'my' little secret a while longer (Mwahahaha! etc.).

All that said, second hand can help reduce outlay for a good return - all the best with your search.

[dietrich]

Used market could bring you a Massive Passive which would be a much different flavor in your chain.

[bblackwood]

The Ibis is a beast in M/S mode - just look for a good stereo EQ and strap the M/S box around the Ibis...

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Hi, Brad

You mean puting Ibis to M-S mode and picking another EQ for the regular Stereo Processing?
Ibis doing the analog lift at stereo here has been great too.

[Ed Littman]

This is what I do. nothing like a little color on the sides to focus some crunchy panned guitars. Or pushing 104hz in the center to bring out the kick.
Ed

Hi,

I have been using the following chain for some time:

Pre EQ PSP MAster Q >> DAW AES OUT Digidesign 192 IO Digital >> Hedd 192 d/a >> Crane Song Ibis EQ >> Pendulum OCL2 (with physical sidechain) >> Crane Song STC8 >> Hedd 192 a/d >> Pro Tools HD Digidesign 192 Digital AES In> Daw ( PSP Neon HR M-S Mode > PSP Master Q > PSP Xenon > TC BW Limiter II from MD3 Suite).

I have considered two ideas:
a) Doing M-S in analog chain, thus the need to add a second analog EQ;

b) Adding a second Eq in stereo mode after the STC8, prior to Hedd a/d stage;

I am still not sure which idea would provide me better results.

I am more than satisfied with the present chain, but we are always trying to improve a bit.

As a second EQ, I have considered buying:

1) another Ibis EQ ( already accustomed to it).. although seems weird picking same brand/mode/sound...

2) Millenia NSEQ unmodded. No logistics to buy, send to FF, wait and so...

3) Avalon 2055 ( People have pointed me in the past as sounding hifi, pillowed low end).

I would like to buy something fancier like the Buzz Audio EQ or a GM EQ, but are out of my budget!

Any ideas are greatly welcomed!

Thanks in advance!

The Ibis is a beast in M/S mode - just look for a good stereo EQ and strap the M/S box around the Ibis...

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

HUn??
104?

[bblackwood]

Hi, Brad

You mean puting Ibis to M-S mode and picking another EQ for the regular Stereo Processing?

Yep, exactly.

[DOMC]

The Ibis is a beast in M/S mode - just look for a good stereo EQ and strap the M/S box around the Ibis...

I am just about to do exactly this - as soon as my son lets me get in enough time to finish soldering.....

[SafeandSoundMastering]

It is a tricky price point IMO, at least in UK where there is more choice a little higher up in price. I was incredibly underwhelmed by eq's I heard in this category. Seemingly shining in 1 particular band or being of dubious build quality. I appreciate good eq is hard to do right. Have fun choosing your eq.

I would have thought the Gyraf G14 would have been something to look at for a colourful choice.

[Mastertone]

Jaakko turned me on to this one a while back, anyone played with it?

http://www.adesignsaudio.com/hammer.html