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rnicklaus

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Re: 2 track master recorders...I'm curious...
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2007, 06:07:09 PM »

Trumpetman2 wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 14:59

Tomas Danko wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 15:44

If you make a search you'll find lots of information and opinions here. The usual suspects I take it, Mytek, Lavry, Apogee, Universal Audio, Lynx and others.



I take it that the "lowly" Lucid ($800) is no improvement over the stock ML converters...? Confused


Here (hear) is my take on this.

If you print your mix to a "format" with "a" converter and when you play it back, to the client and yourself it sounds the same as the output of the mix, it's good.  Of course none of this takes into account monitoring accuracy, etc, but still....

Everything on top of that is opinion, but worth learning to improve you ears and your gears. (groan)

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Tomas Danko

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Re: 2 track master recorders...I'm curious...
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2007, 08:34:56 PM »

Trumpetman2 wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 22:59

Tomas Danko wrote on Mon, 08 January 2007 15:44

If you make a search you'll find lots of information and opinions here. The usual suspects I take it, Mytek, Lavry, Apogee, Universal Audio, Lynx and others.



I take it that the "lowly" Lucid ($800) is no improvement over the stock ML converters...? Confused


Actually, it is.
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Re: 2 track master recorders...I'm curious...
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2007, 08:29:02 AM »

From what I've been able to gather the stand-alone boxes just store the data and burn it to CD... with a computer you're just storing the data for a transfer to CD... or to email to the mastering house... or to convert it to MP-3 and post on "MySpace", etc.  The stand-alone boxes will require a chassis [just like a computer], a power supply [just like a computer], memory [just like a computer], a read out [screen, just like a computer], audio I/O [just like a computer], a CD drive to burn CD's [just like a computer], and software to run it [just like a computer]... so seeing as the stand-alone things have kinda shitty converters and will need outboard converters [just like a computer] it seems pragmatic to me to just get a computer.

As always, YMMV.
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Re: 2 track master recorders...I'm curious...
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2007, 09:28:11 AM »

I agree that the Masterlink sound horrible on it's own.  I use mine as a storage device with a PSX 100 converting both the inputs AND the outputs.

As far as Boutique 2 track recorders...  I was talking to the folks at RADAR several years ago at AES who said they were looking into an 8 channel hi-res mixdown machine.  I have never heard anything from them about it since.  It seems to me that would be a strong selling avenue for RADAR who already have a solid reputation for their "sound".  Especially if you remember when studios were paying 10-12k or more for good condition Studer A820's and Ampex 2 tracks.

This has got me thinking.  My RADAR sounds more like 2" than my Pro Tools rig. And even when mixing in the box I'll use analog gear on inserts (especially on 2 mix insert)...  so why not use the RADAR in place of a 1/2" 2 track.  If I slave it to code I can print multiple mixes in the same time location at higher sample rates than the original session.   Hmmmm..
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