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Alécio Costa - Brazil

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Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« on: December 15, 2006, 03:04:54 PM »

Hello,
I am upgrading my studio Monitors and I am choosing between these 2 models.

Here in Brazil a pair of Dynaudio's is pretty expensive, almost twice the price of the Yummies. Anyway.. if quality is far superior.. the Dynaudios must get their home...

I was also thinking of buying the BM6 and connect it to my current power amp, TASCAM PA150.

Today I was informed that this NS series is much better than the previous MSP series.

Any comments are greatly wellcomed.
thanks

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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2006, 07:55:08 PM »

Had HS50M and didn't like the HF, it was totaly off the balance and wierd sounding on things like hihats. So I don't expect HS80M to sound any better in that area.

I've heard one of the small KRK monitors and they were much better balenced than yammies.
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Alécio Costa - Brazil

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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2006, 09:04:09 PM »

Thanks

I have just read the forums I posted this very same question and there are lots of different opinions...
a)Some people prefer the BM5As;

b)others say the HS80 is far better than the "Wackies HR824;

c) a few guys say the low end of the BM5A is far to judge;

d) some say that the HS80 are brittle, where you always need to work with the -2DB switch engaged;

Unfortunately I do not have a way of testing the BM5As in Brazil.

The Hr824s I really did not enjoy. Looking soon for the audition of the HS80s.
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Alécio Costa Studio
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2006, 04:52:17 AM »

No EQ solves what I've heard with HS50M, the built in EQ just muddies the highs but doesn't make them right, the weird character just remains.

Unfortunately I can't give you any clues about dynaudios, because I   haven't heard them.

All I can comment is:

ADAM S3A (a bit bass light, but overall my preference)

KH O300D (smiley faced compared to adams, not so defined midrange, nice bass though)

Yamaha HS50M (ugly highs, forward midrange and high bass that makes beats more impressive, 1/8 of resolution of those highend nearfields)

Small cheap KRK (almost balanced, no ugly highs, about the same resolution as yamaha, nice for the price, nice for some concept/compose work in the field, but as your only monitor? I'd wait a bit and buy something more detailed.)

Behringer Truth (nasal with poisonous highend, nothing in the middle and than some sub boom to make it sound bigger, I'd rather quit working with sound than having rely on it)

Event 20/20p (old piece, it had some nasality built in as well as mud instead of midrange, impossible to judge HF, this box did't let a lot of character through, making things to sound alike --- yep I had them for a while  Sad )



There are some success stories with Adam A7 and I'd try new genelecs (8030 or 8040)...
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2006, 04:34:53 PM »

I have the Dynaudio BM6a and they sound good to my ears.  I also have a sub for checking the sub low end.

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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2006, 05:49:36 PM »

thanks, guys. I am still in doubt if I pick the BM5As or the BM6P and connect them to my PA150 (Tascam Amp).
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Alécio Costa Studio
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2006, 06:03:32 PM »

I'll say the same thing that I've been told a couple places...for the price of a pair of Dynaudios, you'd be hard pressed to get a pair of speakers and seperate poweramp of equal quality.  I've replaced my Mackie HR824's in March, and I can tell you that the BM6A's that now occupy that spot on my desk are some of the easiest speakers I've ever listened to.  When I put them up, I re-mixed a track I had mixed on my Mackies and when I referenced it on my home stereo and in my car it was almost as if I had re-recorded the song.  The mix IMMEDIATELY translated better.  I'd be willing to say that if you spend the money on the BM5A's, you won't be disappointed in any way; you will be happy you spent the money.
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2006, 10:40:26 AM »

I have had the bm5's for about seven months now and I never think about getting anything else. I am totally satisfied. They are easy to listen to and very acurate in my opinion. Other speakers I listen to in that price range dont come close. I havent listened to everything there is available I just dont think you could go wrong from my expericnce.
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2006, 10:30:33 PM »

thanks.
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Alécio Costa Studio
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2007, 02:06:53 PM »

Personally the HS50M's with the sub do everything I want. They have totaly replaced my NS-10's...I liked em so much in the midrange (where it counts) that I bought 3 pairs!
Another engineer who does classical music for a living heard my pair, and bought em from me on the spot. He's got 4 Grammys' so take it for what it's worth.
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 04:13:34 PM »

Another option in this price range is the Genelec 8020 pair. They are very good quality considering their size and price. IMHO they are superior to both the yamaha and the dynaudio bm5 when it comes to the way they translate. But monitor speakers are such a subjective matter, at least in the low end budget.

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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2007, 04:59:38 AM »

To all the guys here don't know what they are talking about, why don't u all go work at the Starbucks or something?  Obviously u dont know nothing about music.

Yamaha HS50Ms are the best small monitors ever made, for studio recording or Hi-Fi use. All the other manufacturers u guys mention don't have the resources like a giant Japanese manufacturer such as Yamaha, but they charge thousands of dollars for their poor products u guys rave for(this includes Genelecs, Adams, horrible Mackies, Dynadios etc). So I advise u to shut up and listen or go play in the sand.

Yamaha HS50Ms are the most transparent small monitors ever made, if u can't hear it or ur music doesn't sound good  on them ur an untalented musician (or an engineer), get it?
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 10:16:04 AM »

Um...wow.  I guess because I have a pair of Mackies AND a pair of Dynaudios I must be a REAL hack.  Because (and you're absolutely right about this...) what monitors you have and like really does determine whether or not your work is any good!  I mean, CLA uses Yamaha NS-10's.  We all know what a loser he is, what with him never working and all...Bruce Swedien uses Westlakes...WTF are Westlakes?  Some guy who spends 90% of his life making speakers...and again, we ALL know what a hack Bruce Swedien is...

I'll go "play in the sand" with those guys, if that's okay.
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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2007, 01:21:01 PM »

Does anyone else notice the weird low mid bump the BM5's have?

Seems like they're trying to conceal the fact that the monitors

have very little usable bottom end compared to other monitors in

the same or even cheaper (NS80M) price range.  

I use the BM15A's and have used the BM6A's. Both are great sets of

monitors. To me, the BM5's are not even close. I'd look for a

used pair of BM6's on Ebay or elsewhere.

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Re: Yamaha NS80M X Dynaudio BM5A
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2007, 08:17:42 AM »

Ok guys I am doing all of u a favour, sharing my expertise with u hehe.
No seriously, before u buy ne monitors ask a dealer to try them home or in ur studio. if u are not happy u can go bck and exchange it. in USA is no big problem as the dealers are very helpful.
Neway, another way to test ur monitors is to listen to some transparent recordings. one excellent example is Norah Jones' Come Away With Me album. it was recorded  on 2" analog tape and the sound is incredible. If Norah's voice doesn't sound real and intimate as if she is singing in ur room, then ur monitors are rubbish. It does sound absolutely fabulous on my Yamaha HS50Ms, it's surreal.
If you don't have the Norah's album u can go and have a listen on this site: http://www.norahjones.com/  
Just go to the media section and click on the turntable pic to get to the audio files and listen to either Seven Years or Come Away With Me. As I said it should sound as if the musicians and Norah are performing in ur room (I am not joking). If not, change ur monitors and buy Yamaha HS50Ms.
U can also read about how this recording was made from the interview with the legendary producer Arif Mardin on this site:         http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul04/articles/arifmardin.ht m

This is all from me for now, see u later my dear pupils...


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