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[bblackwood]

Think I'll try the TY water shields - looks like a simple solution as long as I get acceptable masters.

Digital file only orders (usually sent as cue+wav along with a link to my Sonoris DDP Player OEM) and/or DDP master being sent to the plant have been steadily increasing for a while so I haven't been going through discs as fast as I used to.

Yah, I probably only cut physical parts on about 30% of projects now - virtually no reference discs any more. I like the trend, it makes sense, but I still need something where I don't get C2's on every other burn. What a colossal waste of time!

[Mastertone]

What burning software are you guys using??

Samplitude and JVC (ty) discs. Just as good as my previous TY silver tops.

[Rick Sutton]

 Well, the water-shields aren't perfect. Hit a bad one with a pile of C2's.

[Jerry Tubb]

Well, the water-shields aren't perfect. Hit a bad one with a pile of C2's.

I must've gotten a good batch, 0.3 C1 test today.

JT

[John Scrip - MASSIVE Mastering]

Everybody's going to hit a bad one here and there... 

[jamesp]

Anyone tried this application http://www.cdspeed2000.com/download.html

I haven't tried it personally as Plextools still does what I want, but Erik has a good track record with this sort of software so it would be worth trying if you need error checking with a newer drive.

James.

[Gold]

Anyone tried this application http://www.cdspeed2000.com/download.html

This came up on GS a while ago. I asked if it was less wonky than Plextools. The only responder said it was more wonky than Plextools FWIW. For $25 I might give it a shot. I have a new Windows 7 computer I'm getting the puzzle pieces together for. I'd like to have that capability on that machine.

[jamesp]

Paul - are you sure you're not confusing this with Plex Utilities? Erik wrote CDSpeed which was absorbed into Nero's burning suite and renamed Drivespeed. For political reasons Drivespeed's error checking tools didn't work with Plextor drives but did work with a wide range of other drives. Any wonkiness would probably have been down to the drive's hardware rather than Erik's software. Erik also coded the earlier versions of Plextools but left Plextor to join Ahead Software before the versions with error checking came out.

You will probably still need a drive based on the Sanyo chipset to take full advantage of the error checking which means an older Plextor or BenQ drive. I get the impression that the newer Mediatek based drives (like the Liteons and new Plextors) aren't as reliable for error checking.

James.

[Gold]

James,
Optidrive was the software I was asking about. Plextools works fine most of the time but I have both LE and the other one installed because sometimes one works and sometimes the other one works. It stays in a state that lets me "Restore" it to start it. If I "Restore" and try to run it I have to restart the computer and it's a crap shoot on whether it will work at all. I have to close it and "Start Plextools" to have it work. Not terrible but it required an ahem learning curve.That's what I meant by wonky.

I have a few old Plextors on a shelf.

[bblackwood]

Just cut my first production master on a TY Water Shield and it's amazing - the numbers look like the TY's of old. If they're all this good, i'm gonna order 1k of 'em and forget about it...

[John Scrip - MASSIVE Mastering]

And they sure are pretty...  And you can run 'em under water without all the ink spilling off.  Bonus.

[Viitalahde]

I think I still have about 250 of my TY's of choice. I think I should order more soon.

In reality, I'm just waiting for DDP's to be accepted everywhere. i think I deliver most of my masters as DDP's now, which is great.

[Technologyworks]

Just cut my first production master on a TY Water Shield and it's amazing - the numbers look like the TY's of old. If they're all this good, i'm gonna order 1k of 'em and forget about it...

I've been using the watershields a few years. They have dropped slightly in quality, not in the general numbers, but in that in each pack I get a few that give me C2s which is very tedious.
When I first started using them I never saw a C2

Peter

[Dave-G]

I think I've gone through at least two spindles of WaterShields without a single C2, and C1s running very low.  IME it's much more possible to make coasters of them by some screwup with the inkjet printer than anything in the discs themselves. 

And the WaterShields do look great when printed on.

-Dave

[Dave-G]

In reality, I'm just waiting for DDP's to be accepted everywhere.

Amen.