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bblackwood

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What CD-rs are you using now?
« on: July 19, 2011, 03:05:06 pm »

Anyone found anything better / more consistent than the TY silvers? About half of the TY silvers I burn are failing in Plextools, growing weary of wasting my time with these...
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 03:09:23 pm »

Burning TY's at 0.2 c1's av per second. White top's.

Are you sure your burner is ok?
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 03:50:37 pm »

Yah, I have several Plextors hanging off the DAW - similar results on all of them.
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 05:31:45 pm »

i had a bad batch that i ordered about 5mo ago (need to re-order, down to my last few)

white topped, 1 outta 5/6 burned with C2s... thought it was burner... switched them.. same results.
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 07:21:29 pm »

I'm also using TY white tops.

I've had to experiment with various burning speed before coming up with ( what I taught was) a decent result.

Burning at x20, .6 to .8 average, and 12 to 16 max


Anything above that ends up in the junk pile.


Since using TYs, never had a master rejected by a duplication plant



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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2011, 07:26:43 pm »

What burning software are you guys using??
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 07:38:38 pm »

What burning software are you guys using??

I burn in Wavelab, and test with Plextools
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 08:26:19 pm »

What burning software are you guys using??
Sequoia.
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 10:08:46 pm »

Brad,
I have had good success with discs from WTSmedia.com in Chattanooga.
http://www.wtsmedia.com/p-178-jvc-taiyo-yuden-52x-shiny-silver-cd-rs.aspx
WTS Warranty: Lifetime, Free Exchange

Free shipping and they offer to replace bad discs. Probably a good bet.

I see they also sell medical grade CDR's. They are supposed to store medical data guaranteed for 100 years. Haven't tried them though.
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2011, 01:59:23 am »

The "regular" TY's (printable, plain 'ol) have been horrible -- Same thing.  Bad, C2's, etc.  Sorry I even ordered some although I only use them for refs. 

The main discs I've been using are the TY Water Shields -- Those have been fine - so far.  Consistently good stuff. 
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2011, 03:33:30 am »

FWIW TY white tops here burnt with SADiE/Plextor Premium II.

Never had significant problems with the media save for the occasional (perhaps once a year) 'solid C2' disc which I've assumed to be the start or end of a batch run.
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2011, 06:33:18 am »

TY Silver discs burned at 8X on a Plextor with Wavelab 6. No problems so far (knock on wood).

We have a GREAT distributor who we buy from http://www.thelittlewarehouse.com/.There are still a lot of reject TYs floating around that some places are selling as the "good stuff" when in point of fact they are rejects from Plextor. I guess it is good for their bottom line but I don't want to use something that I cannot trust.

We use a lot of Sony CDs for listening copies and they were always reliable but recently we have been getting a lot of errors. Maybe they switched manufacturers???
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 06:46:11 am »

Anyone found anything better / more consistent than the TY silvers? About half of the TY silvers I burn are failing in Plextools, growing weary of wasting my time with these...

Yep we've had dicey results with Taiyo Yuden for the last coupla years, with both silvers & whites.

Didn't someone predict this when JVC came on board?

Sometimes a batch is good, below 1.0 C1 errors, more often from 1.0 to 2.0, but within spec.

Then a rare bad batch rears it's ugly head, even a random few bad discs within a good batch, it's a little puzzling.

Can be a real time waster when on a deadline crunch, especially with longer projects that require a wall-to-wall burn on the disc surface.

A real shame that quality control seems to be slipping with TY.

A far cry from the halcyon days of yore!

(I just love saying that)

So is it inconsistent dye coating that causes the problem?

Or a rotational balance thing?

I even had a batch where I had to manually smooth out the plastic in the center hole to allow the burner to grab it properly.

I'm tempted to try those pricey Green Tune CD-R's strictly for masters to see if they yield any better results.

Or probably the Water Shield TYs...
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2011, 07:36:47 am »

Yes I recall a set giving C1's of 1.5 / 2.0 or so, but that is still very good compared with some of the trash there is.
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Re: What CD-rs are you using now?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2011, 07:55:05 am »

This recent batch fails in-house QC roughly half the time, no plant rejections.

The worst part is most of the discs have physical issues - when you visually inspect the disc you can see scuffs, discolorations, etc...

I'd happily pay a premium for discs that someone actually cares about manufacturing properly.
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