Sorry, a bunch of this is just plain not true.
You can call a 767 flimsy if you want but, it was very very heavy and moving very very fast. This is NOTHING like any thing a storm would bring. It's another set of problems all together. I'm not claiming the building swayed to far out like it could with a very vast wind.
it would have affected the top floors only.
the building wouldn't have collapsed, because the weight of the aircraft is not enough to cause damage to a structure such as the one we are talking about
Where are your Bombs? Who heard explosions? Who did this to us? You say WE need to prove our end of this. Well, should come arrest you for child porn and say, " OK pal, PROVE you didn't do it."
firemen heard the bombs: "boom boom boom!"
caretaker heard the bombs in the basement... look it up.
if you take the time to actually take a look on internet there are PLENTY of videos where you can hear bombs going off.
I can think of one which was filmed from the other side of the water from afar where you hear a subsonic-rich boooom and the camera shakes (across the river!) just before a tower collapses.You seem to be stuck on this steel thing. Concrete and steel are only strong if they are put together correctly in a structure. If you interrupt how the loads are distributed enough, it's NOT strong anymore.Also, why do you think you suddenly understand how it would fall? How? why? who told you this? I just don't get it.
the steel beams at the core of the building are vertical and sorrounded in cement.
it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that a network of steel and concrete beams will not collapse VERTICALLY on themselves at the speed of gravity.
they would, under extremely heavy loads, FOLD.. and it would take time.. most certainly the building would not go DOWN, but it would have lateral movement due to buckle in the frame.
HAVE YOU EVEN BOTHERED to look at the links or take a look at the information available on the web.. or would you rather argue with me?
Remember now, A devise, at about 395,000 LBS,{ maybe a little less} was flying at aprox- 500 MPH, {in all likely hood, faster} and flew right in. What is this stuff about storms. When did a storm penetrate the tower? I missed that.
penetration is less harmful because it is LOCALIZED
Here is some guy saying things that are not strictly true. He's picking mini facts and using them for his argument, out of context:
"In all the likely variations of an accidental impact with the WTC, the Boeing 707 would be traveling faster. In terms of impact damage, this higher speed would more than compensate for the slightly lower weight of the Boeing 707."
"In conclusion we can say that if the twin towers were designed to survive the impact of a Boeing 707, then they were necessarily designed to survive the impact of a Boeing 767. "
It simply is NOT TRUE that a 707 would be going faster. He or she would be flying the approach speed for JFK,or LGA which is about 200 kts indicated air speed in the pattern and down to 155'ish on final. The same speed as any other big jet. The last bit is also NOT TRUE. The WTC was not to built to survive a full speed jet impact. NOT. No one approaching this air space would be going any faster than 250. It simply is not done. If a pilot had a problem and could not slow down, they would be over the water fast as to not kill anyone. It would be very very hard to accidently fly a modern jet into the sky line in NY and everyone knew that when they built the towers.
Amazing. Sad....
Ivan
I don't have the math capacity to calculate this, and I don't think you do either, but let's say what you say is true.
let's imagine a jet flying at four times the speed of the jets involved and four times the weight.
if the towers were to be affected the impact would sever the numerous steel vertical beams (it is almost impossible, but let's say it can be done).
if the building's structure failed the beams would be severed and the top part of the building would move away from the centre of gravity therefore falling to THE SIDE of the base... not straight down vertically...
.. the antenna of the roof collapsed BEFORE the perimeter, which means the central structure failed before the outside structure and fell vertically..
this is what happens when explosives are placed along the vertical beams (elevator shafts) so that they are effectively severed and destroyed causing whatever is on top to...fall vertically.
again.. TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND INFORM YOURSELF ON THE BASICS OF demolition and construction of high rise towers...BEFORE you express your disbelief of the obvious..
and then explain to me why WTC 7 fell.
