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eligit

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Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« on: September 05, 2006, 05:01:04 pm »

usually just lurk but....

anyone have some favorites here?

from all perspectives (SOUND, maintenance, parts, etc etc etc)

so what is the magic 1"8 track?

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Barry Hufker

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 05:53:50 pm »

A serious question -- Is there a magic to 1" 8 track?

If so, I would think it's because this was the first real "large format" recorder (double the previous number of tracks).  So there is some nostalgia as those machines made a huge difference in recording technique and mixing possibilities.

But we quickly went to 16 and 24 so there must not be too much magic...  Sixteen still had essentially the same track width, S/N and crosstalk.  Twenty-four tracks is where we took a hit in quality.

I once owned a Scully 280 four track because that is what I could afford.  I would have loved to have an 8 track, which I probably would have sold for a 16.

Barry
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compasspnt

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2006, 05:58:18 pm »


There is no "Magic" machine.

You provide the magic.

Or not.

But I did a lot of things on the Scully.
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eligit

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2006, 05:59:05 pm »

yeah, i hear ya...but i really cannot use (or really fit) a 16 or 25 track machine. this is a little home studio.  also, i am under the impression that financially 1" 8 track is very good bang for the buck and (theoretically anyway) better resolution per track than 2" 24 track.

the tape is cheaper....and the machines are a good bargain...all that stuff.

anyway...last machine i was thinking of was the otari mx-70...but did not take the plunge.

edit: oh, yeah forget the word "magic". let's just leave it at "recommended 1" 8 track tape recorders"....

edit #2: the scully machine is just too old and parts/repair issues would just be too much.
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gevermil

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006, 06:07:58 pm »

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eligit

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2006, 06:17:05 pm »

gevermil wrote on Tue, 05 September 2006 23:07

heres a thread that may help you

 http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/9774/0/16/ 0/


was just reading that.....some interesting opinions...
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maxdimario

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2006, 07:28:45 am »

the real magic is a 4 track 1" machine.. or 8 track 2"

if you can make records with it...

you can only record super musicians with it because you can't really overdub (although you can do destructive bounces) unless you have two of them..

anyway that's twice the tape width and probably the best sounding recorder.
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eligit

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006, 10:32:02 am »

maxdimario wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 12:28

the real magic is a 4 track 1" machine.. or 8 track 2"

if you can make records with it...

you can only record super musicians with it because you can't really overdub (although you can do destructive bounces) unless you have two of them..

anyway that's twice the tape width and probably the best sounding recorder.


yeah, i've heard about em....not practical for me at all.  i'm sure they sound completely astounding with no NR needed.

anyone else got some opionions on the 1" 8?
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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 11:32:30 am »

i think jack white has been making white stripes records on 1" 8, and the record he did with loretta lynn was 1" 8, although the brand escapes me, somewhere buried in the forum (possible a Studer A-80?)

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2006, 11:47:49 am »

scottoliphant wrote on Wed, 06 September 2006 16:32

i think jack white has been making white stripes records on 1" 8, and the record he did with loretta lynn was 1" 8, although the brand escapes me, somewhere buried in the forum (possible a Studer A-80?)


the stripes records are a bit rough for my taste...but i'm sure that's not the machine...the lynn stuff is really nice.

you are right about it being an A-80 1" 8 track on the elephant album.
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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006, 10:05:24 am »

I truly love my 3M M56.
Spent lots of time in the trenches with a Scully 284
and a few days with Ampex 440 and Studer A80.
Unless you're handy and have a budget to keep those beasts alive,
you may be better off with an Otari MX70 or MCI JH110.
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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 10:20:46 am »

Dominick wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 15:05

I truly love my 3M M56.
Spent lots of time in the trenches with a Scully 284
and a few days with Ampex 440 and Studer A80.
Unless you're handy and have a budget to keep those beasts alive,
you may be better off with an Otari MX70 or MCI JH110.



thanks for the advice.

i am in NYC as well.  what is the tech situation for tape machines in NYC?  any good guys who can come to the studio?
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Jeff Goodman

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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2006, 03:26:53 pm »

Dom, check you pm's.

Jeff
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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2006, 03:33:44 pm »

http://www.globalnetvillage.com/images/mx70.jpg
I love my Otari MX-70 1" 8tk for recording at the cribb.
My other car's an A-800, tho=)
That lives elsewhere for obvious reasons!
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Re: Favorite 1" 8 track machines.
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2006, 04:31:00 pm »

Larrchild wrote on Fri, 08 September 2006 20:33

http://www.globalnetvillage.com/images/mx70.jpg
I love my Otari MX-70 1" 8tk for recording at the cribb.
My other car's an A-800, tho=)
That lives elsewhere for obvious reasons!


and what would you say is the sonic difference btw the studer and otari?  just laying down a stereo miced track and listening back.

does the studer make the otari sound bad by comparison?

or is it hard to say considering the different mics, sources, pre amps, and monitors?
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