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Fibes

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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2006, 11:00:54 pm »

J. you get the gold star for top end.

That said, the lows sound to me like you are mixing with a sub. I think i know you do but, i hear it. Some of the mid-bass gets lost whereas the lows pop through. Sure, I know it's partially the bassista nd the tracking bastard but the bass levels don't match up with your top, so either start wearing a one piece or go nude.

Get my drift?

FWIW although it was sonically different in many ways J. hit what I recall my original mix pretty closely, cept i had distorted bass in sections. Must get DAT wired...

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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2006, 07:05:50 am »

j.hall wrote on Fri, 28 July 2006 03:27


that goes for every one.  feel free to tell me what you personally think is wrong with my mix.



If I'm nitpicking, then I would say that maybe the drums suffer a little at the expense of the guitars/synths. To me the drums drive the track, but to my taste they're perhaps pushed back behind the guitars here. Having said that, I do like loud drums, and even then when I revisit old material I tend to find I put the drums a bit too far forward in the mix- so it's probably just my fucked up taste.

The other thing I'd say, is that maybe the mix was a bit static, in terms of automation and fx. But in a track as dense as this, it's hard to appreciate what someone else may have done behind the scenes, so this observation might be quite wide of the mark.

As i said though, i'm nitpicking.
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scott volthause

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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2006, 02:43:27 pm »

j.hall wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 22:27

that comment to me means you didn't like my mix at all.


untrue. i did like your mix / mixing in general for the reasons stated... you have a great talent for individualizing components and making them all audible and controlled. it's impressive and intimidating.

it's tricky though. obviously we saw different things in the song, based on the approach to the mix we individually took. that goes for everyone involved. it's like standing in the middle of your friends living room that has white walls and suddenly blurting out the color that you think the room should be painted.

obviously this song was a blank wall in unmixed form, and we all stepped into the room and shouted "RED!" or "GREEN!"

for me to turn to you and say, "Dude, red? Are you crazy? It should totally be blue." that would be assinine.

j.hall wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 22:27

so instead of me diving into what i did, i'm actually much more interested in hearing what you think is wrong with my mix


i thought the super wide and upfront guitars were a bit overdone. the drums were pushed back a tad farther that i would have done it.

it's not wrong. just different than what i did.
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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2006, 11:56:39 pm »

Fibes wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 22:00

 but the bass levels don't match up with your top, so either start wearing a one piece or go nude.

Get my drift?




not really.  do you mean my bottom end is too big, or not big enough?

my sub only balances out the bottom octave in my room.  trust me, it's not cranked by any means.  

i didn't think the drums were that far back.....i'll have to take another listen to my mix.
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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2006, 12:08:15 am »

Your bottom octave is fine, it's above that where I'm hearing a bit of a wandering.

As I said before it's minor and prolly my fault.

Listen to the bass guitar...
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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2006, 12:13:39 am »

fault doesn't matter, just wanted to clarify.

if it's minor i'm not worried, if it's major i want to evaluate.

i'll double check but i don't think i eq'd your bass sound at all.
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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2006, 09:43:46 am »

Here's a mix of OTO from a decade ago:

OTO

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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2006, 01:01:52 pm »

I'm going to start with Volthause's mix.  From a creative standpoint I like what he did with the song best.  The dropouts and the break and the vocals added at the end are great touches IMO.  From a sonic standpoint it is not quite my favorite.  It is very compressed and upfront and I don't know if I am totally in love with that.  Granted if I had only heard this version I would probably not even think twice about it.

Did you put the break in each track or was that something you put into the 2 track mixdown?
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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2006, 10:11:44 pm »



I second the vote for Scotts mix.  Although I didn't have a chance to do a mix of this song, so he really had no competition.  Razz

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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2006, 05:59:56 pm »

Thanks guys.

Fabricoh, I admit that I did overdo the compression, but that was my intention. I really thought that it would push everything forward, almost in a "almost going to explode" fashion. To me, that's what the song said to do.

As for the break, I did the break on each track.
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Re: IMP5 "OTO" mix discussion
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2006, 11:21:16 pm »

Just as a side note on my mix.  I don't know if you can tell but the whole mix was done on a pair of $15 Koss headphones.

If anything I would say it is a credit to great tracking.  With clean tracks you can get away with quite a bit and still come out looking pretty good.
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