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Cass Anawaty

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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2011, 07:18:18 PM »

Art is art.  I've worked on things that I wouldn't want my kid to hear, but I'm a professional, and I do my job.

A few months after my return from an Operation Enduring Freedom tour I did an anti-war record full of mischaracterizations, complete fabrications, and various other bits of full-blown bs regarding all of it.

They loved my work.   ;)
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2011, 08:33:44 PM »

I'm probably on some sort of watch list with some of the stuff from some of the countries I've worked on...  I have no idea what some of it is (don't understand the various languages). 

I know one of them was rather heartily anti-American (found out on a site with an English review of the recording (from Pakistan...?  I don't even remember). 

One wonders why they sent it to the USA for mastering...
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2011, 07:39:54 AM »

I recently mastered some European grime and the only words I understood was "p*ss and sh*t"
I do not think this was the core subject, lol.
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Ed Littman

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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2011, 08:01:00 AM »


Me too. However their was one single once that really caught my attention. the sonics were the worst i heard along to the lyrics about raping woman....not fun.
Ed

i think i'm more offended by poorly played and recorded songs then lyrical content ...

that said, i rarely listen to what is being sung.

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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2011, 09:35:07 AM »

I recently mastered some European grime and the only words I understood was "p*ss and sh*t"
I do not think this was the core subject, lol.

Oh, I recently mastered an album where the former was indeed the core subject. I don't really find that particularly bothersome though. To each their own :)
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2011, 07:38:22 AM »

i wont cut seriously woman trashing smut , i have refused maybe ten sessions  in 25 years
maybe half of them just dropped the  shitty track   and the session went on

its hardly something that would effect my cashflow  but it is a limit
simple rule  - if i couldnt play it to my wife  i wouldnt work on it

i am sure we all have had a run of scary dark metal with all wierdshit lyrics
it just makes me laugh
why is the scariest  heaviest stuff always done by the nicest guys that wouldn't hurt a fly  and pay their bills no questions asked ?


 
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2011, 03:03:51 PM »

Had a group in for mastering. I don't want to give their name but they are a punk group. The lead singer spend 34 minutes of a 43 minute CD talking about putting things into and taking things out of his butt (he used other words). When they left I had to take a shower I really felt very dirty.

FWIW
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2011, 05:42:00 PM »

maybe he was a proctologist, you have to write about what you know

and thats why most of my lyrics are about beer

Had a group in for mastering. I don't want to give their name but they are a punk group. The lead singer spend 34 minutes of a 43 minute CD talking about putting things into and taking things out of his butt (he used other words). When they left I had to take a shower I really felt very dirty.

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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2011, 07:19:16 PM »

I'd like to know what he talked about for the other 9 minutes.
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2011, 06:44:32 AM »

I'd like to know what he talked about for the other 9 minutes.

His girlfriend and how the world was all $%^*ed up...
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2011, 06:56:35 AM »

maybe he was a proctologist, you have to write about what you know

and thats why most of my lyrics are about beer
You put beer up your butt?  In my experience, there is another way.

And .. on-tangent, about 15 years ago, I got a gig doing some restoration on cockpit voice recordings from a plane that crashed, killing all aboard.  At the onset, I thought "wow, forensic audio! Interesting potential as a new revenue stream". All I knew was I had to sign affidavits, and didn't even know what the material was going to be ... Not long into the project, I felt certain that working on almost an kind of music with even the worst fictional lyrics would be preferable to hearing the 'truth' of people and death in work of that type.

I'd still politely refuse something genuinely offensive, but thankfully, I have not really been challenged to make that determination.  My word-of-mouth circulates pretty nicely among the less-than-offensive. . .. You know, like people who drink beer mouth-first.
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2011, 08:00:32 AM »

And .. on-tangent, about 15 years ago, I got a gig doing some restoration on cockpit voice recordings from a plane that crashed, killing all aboard.  At the onset, I thought "wow, forensic audio! Interesting potential as a new revenue stream". All I knew was I had to sign affidavits, and didn't even know what the material was going to be ... Not long into the project, I felt certain that working on almost an kind of music with even the worst fictional lyrics would be preferable to hearing the 'truth' of people and death in work of that type.
From what I've heard this is a typical reaction from a music audio person faced with the reality of  forensic work, and it's why I've not been tempted to pay the bills that way in spite of the occasional request.
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2011, 10:51:55 AM »

You know, like people who drink beer mouth-first.
There was that rumor about it working faster the other way....some people just have to try things for themselves.
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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2011, 11:41:09 AM »

Oh yeah, I won't do forensic work, very distasteful.

Often you don't know if you're working for the good or bad guys.

So I do have a moral standard of sorts..

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Re: Do you keep a moral standard?
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2011, 12:07:14 PM »

Yeah, forensics work sounds like it's for the heavy-headed only.

There has been a murder case in the public in Finland for perhaps a year now. A wife is suspected to have killed her husband, but she says the murderer was a big guy who came and went. IIRC, the Finnish police had the recorded emergency call analyzed & restored at FBI's forensics lab. The dying husband is moaning on the background, and they're trying to figure out what does all of that mean.

Anyhow, the wife's looking very guilty in the public eye for various good reasons, but her defend had the emergency call re-restored at a Finnish studio. That made me think if I would do that or no, having read a lot about the case in the news.
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