Fenris Wulf. wrote on Mon, 01 May 2006 23:36 |
So I'm a racist and I ought to be sued. Thanks.
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If you'd like to point to where I said that, go right ahead.
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asked if such a policy is legal and pointed to an example that I thought was distantly comparable.
(By the way, nice of you to "correct the record" by re-writing your entire post after letting the original one sit for a few days.)
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I don't do Christian Rock either, the music creeps me out and the labels are infamous for screwing you on payment. Are they gonna sue me too? Followed by the White Power bands and the National Association of People Who Don't Shower?
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Jeez! You should run a golf club.
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The right of free association includes the right to not associate with people, unfortunately this has been forgotten in the rush to criminalize behavior that doesn't fit your utopian ideas of social justice.
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Again, think of it like a restaurant. To what extent is a restaurant able to legally refuse to serve certain *groups* of people (not individuals, but groups)?
[Don't even get me started on the widespread use of selective implementation of dress codes (i.e. no baggy pants, etc.) to quasi-legally skirt racial discrimination laws.]
You're right the Supreme Court has ruled that the first ammendment
implies a freedom of association but, according to 1976's Runyon v McCrary, which weighs the Civil Rights Act against the First Ammendment, businesses are not allowed to consider race.
I'm sure you'll be the first to tell us that your exclusion is not based on race. So I'll ask you again the pointed question you elected not to answer the first time I asked it:
What do your other black clients (who don't do rap, hip hop, or R&B) think of your policy?
I ask, because if you ever ARE sued, you had sure as fuck better be able to point to some.
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Too many hip-hop artists are REAL criminals who commit REAL crimes and brag about it in their music. There's a line between artistic expression and REAL violence.
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How many is too many? And what evidence can you offer to show that the majority of those who rap about such things REALLY do them?
The problem here is that you'd prefer not to work with gangstas (fair enough) and can't think of a better way of keeping them out, so you resort to excluding ALL genres of primarily black music, now that blues and jazz belong to white people.
Perhaps you aren't a racist. Maybe you're just a poor judge of character.
[EDIT: I'd like to add that the vast majority of racists I have ever met truly did not think they were racists. That's the new racism.]
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If you record hip-hop, you are inviting criminals into your studio and putting yourself at risk to get robbed or attacked.
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This is the most ridiculous (and unsupportable) xenophobic stereotype I've heard in recent memory (and I've heard some good ones.)
That is a PERCEIVED threat. If it were a REAL threat, those of us on this board who have been successfully working with rap and hip hop artists for years without any trouble AT ALL might PERCEIVE it as well.
Crime is an individual thing, not relegated exclusively to one race or group. You might consider doing some soul searching and ask yourself if you unconsciously think of crime differently when it is committed by white people... which it is, and often. And you can't use their music, whether they are white or black, as a barometer for whether or not they're going to commit a crime against you.
Would you care to guess what group of people are, statistically, most likely to commit a crime? Hint: It isn't black people, nor is it rappers.
Give up? It's POOR people.
Again, maybe you should run a country club.
Truth is, you haven't reduced your risk of being the victim of a crime. What you've done is made yourself more comfortable.
In fact, the one shady scam artist I encoutered (which I referenced in my first post on this topic) was a Reggae artist. Do you work with reggae artists?
DF