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chrisj

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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2006, 10:50:44 PM »

Actually, I can tell his basic point is not to have attack transients out of phase with each other, but that's kinda crazy because they're far from similar, a kickdrum and a bass. It makes me want to go,

"Naturally, you're familiar with the process of assigning each sound contrasting wavelengths so the periods of possible cancellation as the attack transient progresses are kept brief?"

...which of course is the 'carving a hole in the bassdrum to put the bass guitar in' technique, from various mixers including Ted Templeman. The one centers on one bass range and higher beater click, the other occupies midbass space and avoids stepping on the bassdrum's frequencies. Some guys (I'm thinking of Brad here...) seem even able to do this in mastering, probably by digging out different narrowband bass boosts.

Of course, this trick of getting the kick and bass to blend densely by not allowing cancellation between bass frequencies is a LEETLE more sophisticated than 'moving the speaker cones in the same direction at the same time'...

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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2006, 11:00:16 PM »

I'm still not convinced John Vestman actually exists.

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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2006, 11:45:19 PM »

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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2006, 11:47:05 PM »

ammitsboel wrote on Sun, 23 April 2006 15:08


Isn't it usually people that hasn't been enlightened yet that makes fun of these things?


Yes, that must be it.  Audiophiles will "enlighten" your wallet, though...

DC

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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2006, 12:01:26 AM »

I thought John Vestman was Bill Roberts' roommate?
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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2006, 01:45:52 AM »


What do you guys think of those monitor controllers he builds, they look kind of...well...good!

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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2006, 02:14:10 AM »

bigaudioblowhard wrote on Sun, 23 April 2006 22:45


What do you guys think of those monitor controllers he builds, they look kind of...well...good!



Never heard a bad word about Inward Connections or Steve Firlotte's work, fwiw.

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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2006, 02:29:15 AM »

Jerry Tubb wrote on Sun, 23 April 2006 21:12

SamC

So now you're defending John Vestman? I bet he considers himself an "Artiste" ; )

Although I didn't actually read the "article", seemed like he was describing a version of stems.

Doesn't matter one way or the other what John does, just trying thought I'd mention the Infomercial as a passing novelty.

Am I obliged to use one of those insipid smiley things?  JT, if you missed the sarcasm then I guess my post is doomed.  We don't need to get into his explanation and definition of his "separation mastering" invention..............OF COURSE IT'S STEMS!

Yeah, looking at his site, I'm quiet sure that he IS an Artiste.
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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2006, 02:51:10 AM »

I think I'll get myself a Yanni Wig & a Purple Cape to wear for my next infomercial photo op...

and invent "Combination Mastering" where Stems are mixed to {{{stereo}}} before EQing.

Cheers JT


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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2006, 03:12:01 AM »

http://johnvestman.com/life_success_for_musicians.htm

I'm getting Collins a copy for his birthday.
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They say the heart of Rock & Roll is still beating, which is amazing if you consider all the blow it's done over the years.

"The Internet enables pompous blowhards to interact with other pompous blowhards in a big circle jerk of pomposity." - Bill Maher

"The negative aspects of this business, not only will continue to prevail, but will continue to accelerate in madness. Conditions aren't going to get better, because the economics of rock and roll are getting closer and closer to the economics of Big Business America." - Bill Graham

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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2006, 03:59:33 AM »

J.J. Blair wrote on Mon, 24 April 2006 00:12


I'm getting Collins a copy for his birthday.


Thanks!

DC

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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2006, 08:09:15 AM »

bigaudioblowhard wrote on Mon, 24 April 2006 00:45


What do you guys think of those monitor controllers he builds, they look kind of...well...good!

Well considering he uses potentiometers rather than stepped attenuators, there's probably at least one spot where L & R channels match. Almost.

Other than that, I'd agree with DC - Firlotte knows what he's doing.
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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2006, 08:26:45 AM »

bblackwood

Well considering he uses potentiometers rather than stepped attenuators, there's probably at least one spot where L & R channels match.


I once managed to get a near 100% match with a pot - it was a linear pot tweaked with resistor for log action. Works fine in a monitor controller I retrofit in an old console.

But that was the only time, the next time I tried that the balance was all around place!  Laughing
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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2006, 10:16:42 AM »

J.J. Blair wrote on Mon, 24 April 2006 03:12

http://johnvestman.com/life_success_for_musicians.htm

I'm getting Collins a copy for his birthday.


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Re: Article in EQ magazine.
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2006, 10:24:50 AM »

J.J. Blair wrote on Mon, 24 April 2006 00:12

http://johnvestman.com/life_success_for_musicians.htm



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Maybe they were duped 25 years ago and he still has stock left over?
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