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[j.hall]

i just recently picked up "L Ron" and "Gimmick" from my old days of liking this band but never owning their stuff.

good grief L Ron is SOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOD.

it's easily the beginning of Dave Sardy's "sound"  i love his mixes and his overall aesthetic.

[starscream2010]

Nothing very informative to add but.... I too am a fan of the band and Dave Sardy's production (especially the FAR - Water and Solutions record). I saw a pic of one of Sardy's racks and all I can say is that the man loves him some compression.

[j.hall]

you don't need to see his rack to hear the HEAPING LOADS OF COMPRESSION the man uses on his mixes.

a singer takes a breathe of air and it's louder then when he sings...........the weird part is, you love it.

he just knows how to make a mix sound angry at itself.

[starscream2010]

j.hall wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 11:30

he just knows how to make a mix sound angry at itself.

Indeed and I do love it  

[TunaSafeDolphin]

L Ron turned me onto a whole new thing... I simply love that record. I don't know Dave, but I've heard he's an excellent producer and really pounds the snot out of his performers.

-C

[craig boychuk]

After seeing some photos of a Sardy recording setup, I trid a sm7 on hats...never though to do that before...sounds great!!

El Ron is a really cool record...hardly any lowend, but it doesn't matter for some reason...


-craig

[starscream2010]

craig wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 12:04

After seeing some photos of a Sardy recording setup, I trid a sm7 on hats...never though to do that before...sounds great!! El Ron is a really cool record...hardly any lowend, but it doesn't matter for some reason... -craig

could you point me in the direction of said photos? I would like to check those out.

[craig boychuk]

starscream2010 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 12:06

could you point me in the direction of said photos? I would like to check those out.

Oh, if only my feeble brain would provide me with that information.
I can't quite recall.

However, I do seem to vaguely remember that he recorded a Bush record, and there were quite a few pics in the booklet...

I could be totally making this up, though. Bits and pieces of my record shop days floating around in the ol' head tend to get a little jumbled.

Worth a shot, anyway.

Sorry!

craig

[pg666]

just streamed most of 'l. ron' on this here internet..

this stuff is really cool. it's like a super-pissed, macho Quicksand. i love the first take quality of the guitars and that's something i try to acheive in my own work. i'm surprised i've never heard of this before now.

cool! (well, except for distorted vocals, sooo '90s..)

[craig boychuk]

pg666 wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 13:22

(well, except for distorted vocals, sooo '90s..)

Ooooooh, thems fightin' woids!!!!


Distortion pedals at 20 paces, behind the church at dawn. Be there.

heh heh...



-craig

[pg666]

craig wrote on Fri, 21 April 2006 00:48

pg666 wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 13:22  (well, except for distorted vocals, sooo '90s..) Ooooooh, thems fightin' woids!!!! Distortion pedals at 20 paces, behind the church at dawn. Be there. heh heh... -craig

nah, i propose we settle this like gentlemen.. with logic and reason.

exhibit A: *points to table with Garbage cds*..

[craig boychuk]

Well, you have made a good point there...

But check out exhibit B...*reveals the entire Six Finger Satellite discography*

[NelsonL]

pg666 wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 17:22

craig wrote on Fri, 21 April 2006 00:48 pg666 wrote on Thu, 20 April 2006 13:22  (well, except for distorted vocals, sooo '90s..) Ooooooh, thems fightin' woids!!!! Distortion pedals at 20 paces, behind the church at dawn. Be there. heh heh... -craig nah, i propose we settle this like gentlemen.. with logic and reason. exhibit A: *points to table with Garbage cds*..

I thought Butch was a Protools guy?

Wait... nevermind.

[pg666]

craig wrote on Fri, 21 April 2006 18:53

Well, you have made a good point there... But check out exhibit B...*reveals the entire Six Finger Satellite discography*

damn, this is gonna be tough. next thing i know you're gonna be playing the Converge/Today is the Day/Deadguy card. better bring out the big guns..

oh lookie here! it's the singer from Filter!! he even brought an sm58 and a RAT pedal...

[craig boychuk]

touch

[j.hall]

may i introduce you to the Unsane

[pg666]

Quote:

may i introduce you to the Unsane

i'm not sure if this helps or hurts my 'point'

scraaaape!

[drew]

nobody makes a Fender Twin and a Strat sound like Dave Sardy does. saw Barkmarket in Baltimore in '97. the most intense trio i've ever seen.

[starscream2010]

j.hall wrote on Mon, 24 April 2006 09:34

may i introduce you to the Unsane

Speaking of Unsane... I was actually turned on to them, by Joel Hamilton, just last year and I have to say the 2 records I've heard are awesome. Blood Run is very cool and apparently (per Joel) there was no eq used in tracking OR mixdown... just mic placement and a ton of compression, definitely worth a listen.

[twonky]

The Barkmarket record "Vegas Throat" is still one of my faves of all time. It ran congruent to my first experimentation w/ the left handed cigs in high school.

It was the first time I heard a record where I identified the production as just an important part of the record's sound as the songs. I loved the fact that the breaths were louder than the actual vocals and there are lots of them. Talk about stream of consciousness!

Dave Sardy is a big hero of mine.