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John Ivan

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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2006, 05:13:40 pm »

EDIT: THIS POST SHOULD BE VIEWED AS A QUESTION,MORE THAN A STATEMENT.



Hey all,

Miles, thanks for the reference to the Art of War.Also, I've read Chuck's op-ed stuff here and there, he's a smart guy and is over looked. FWIW, there have been a lot of really good conversations on some of the "Liberal Media" shows pointing out what a HUGE Problem Iran is and it's not taken lightly by the legit people reporting what I call News. You make very good points about the danger facing us and there can be no doubt that it's real. I just want you to know that I'm with ya on that.

About anything being W's fault. I understand that it's not his "fault" that a bunch of sick minded people want to kill us. I also realize that a whole bunch of things he's blamed for have nothing what so ever to do with him. I'll just restate my point: He is not now,nor will he ever be equipped to deal with these problems. He just is not a leader. He can't think for himself and is far far away from being a conservative.

That being said, I'm not one to stand by and let Iran develop Nukes. I'm saying, because we've made the choice we have already in going into Iraq, we have put ourselves in a bad position to deal with Iran effectively. We WILL now have the world, for the most part on our side when it comes down to dealing with Iran. Our Credibility gap though, has and will slow us down. Hopefully, when we decide to move on Iran, we will do so in a way that drives home a couple points that used to be unquestionably American but have been called into question over the last few years. This has to do with how and when we use our Military.

It used to be rather clear that we would not start our killing Machine unless it was going to be used in an overwhelming way. In other words, I think we should have said, " After 911, we want Sadam gone. Therefore, he will be gone. We are sending 450,000 troops into Iraq to do this and it will be done right." This, of course, is not what happened. We have fucked this up badly,by ANY measurement.It has been mishandled, I hope everyone understands this now. Again, there is NOTHING about how we did this, that worked. Nothing.

So, My big hope is, if we use our army, the people who decide how to do this are NOT the people who are there now...


Look, if we as a nation,decide to deal with Iran and we have Europe and most of the rest of the world on our side, then we should make short work of it ,, right? I mean, if there's a holy War coming whether we like it or not, then we should get moving.

I don't have the answer. If the truth IS, that no matter what we say or how hard we try to "talk" or "Teach", we will be forced into war, then we should start acting like it's WWIII. We should be dumping $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ into the war machine, getting into the country should be real hard, and we should Go get ALL the dictators in the world. We should say, " we are going to war with who ever we damn well choose. If you are not a democracy, we are coming to kill you now."

We either deal, or we don't.

I don't have the Answer. Sorry.

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danickstr

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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #91 on: April 17, 2006, 10:54:28 pm »

John Ivan wrote on Mon, 17 April 2006 17:13



I don't have the Answer. Sorry.






don't worry John,  I have the answer.  We shove a barbed stick up the ass of any leader that flaunts nukes at us.  On TV in front of his cabinet.  Problem solved.  Kim Jung Il will be having rectal cramps just thinking about it.
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #92 on: April 18, 2006, 12:01:11 pm »

I have 3 solutions..

option 1:
close the thread because an Irane, Chinese, Palestinian, Indian, Pakistanian, Ukrainian or even worse.. an american politic/dictator read this thread and will blow us up..

option 2:
close the thread because of too much desillusionated people with too much fear running around and tell others having fear is better...

option 3:
Switzerland should take over the world leadership and install a swiss world governement.. very neutral, on top I see the option for good cheese and choclate for everyone..
Tik - prime minister
Rankus - the man for the cheap but effective stuff (like finance-minister)
JJ blair - foreign politics (the world will have FEEAR.. warlord minister)
MR Charles DYE - our video specialist.. showing the problem areas in the world with a videotape how to mix things right
Fletcher - secret weapon commander.. he will press the red knob if he is pissed off.. I mean that would be a very nice end for the world
Ross Hoghart for all the religion related stuff and powercables around the world (minister of religion and powermanagement)

I will install myself in the pmtstudios and record some nice deathmetal while you reign the world..



I think that would be the best option so far.. option 3 (should I add a poll now??) Cool  Cool
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #93 on: April 19, 2006, 01:46:12 pm »



I vote for George!

Swissland running the new world would be OK by me!

I feel safer already!
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #94 on: April 19, 2006, 02:36:49 pm »

Not really a viable alternative, why not just add a lifetime cruise on the good ship lollipop?

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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #95 on: April 19, 2006, 11:29:18 pm »

the swiss are just subtler germans.  i will stick with the US but maybe test a nuke here in the red states.
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #96 on: April 19, 2006, 11:40:12 pm »

You can test it on my town, as long as you promise to use them on the enemy, if it works.

I had a good run.


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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #97 on: April 19, 2006, 11:43:49 pm »

never stop running
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