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malice

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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2006, 01:41:35 pm »

rankus wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 19:10



With all due respect Malice, there would be no France if it weren't for the United States... It may be that they (we) are war mongers, but at least they are on YOUR side.




Hey,


This last comment was so much tongue in cheek that one side of my face is blue right now.

I'm genuinely concerned by this article Brad posted.

Lemme ask all of you : "If Bush nuke Iran right now, what would be your reaction ?"

Simple question, simple problem, simple answer awaited ...



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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2006, 01:53:45 pm »



OK respect is restored for Malice.  Sorry I did not realize you were joking.

There is no way that the Bush would, or could, nuke Iran at this time so I cannot comment.  What I do think is that they (Bush etc.) have learned to listen to the global community more. And I think that we will see the allied countries working more closely this time... (At least I hope so)

(Not that this will be a good thing either as it will take decades to agree on a strategy)...



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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2006, 02:15:34 pm »

Reported today:

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Israel a "permanent threat" to the Middle East that will "soon" be liberated. "Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation," Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."

Just sayin'..


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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2006, 02:30:15 pm »

rankus wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 19:53



OK respect is restored for Malice.  Sorry I did not realize you were joking.







You mean French Army invading US ?


On a good day (that means when our Plane Carrier : the Charles de Gaules is not in maintenance,that leave us six good monthes) I suppose we could invade Hawai (if we pick up a good surfing competition day, we might benefit from a surprise effect).

But I doubt the division Leclerc could take care of Texas without the Brits that are unfortunatly on your side (Why am I doing Tik style all of a sudden ?)

Of course I was joking Very Happy

France have a long tradition of great soldier corps that serve no purposes Very Happy

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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2006, 02:42:13 pm »

Malice, Let me take this opportunity to thank you for your help with all those ship's during the founding of our Nation. ,, You fuckers took long enough to get here, but we would have been screwed with out ya, so thanks.

About this home team Idea. I like it. I like Nationalism and think it's very important that Americans feel comfortable cheering the home team on. I can't do this with the current people in charge.This is sad,dangerous and is GETTING US KILLED FOR NO REASON RIGHT NOW!!.Please understand my pointing out what dangerous fools these guys are IS because I'm for the home team. I love my country. A Lot. Just like we all do and I don't want us represented by freak Ideologues who are self fulfilling some bizarre prophecy.

I wont stop pointing my finger at Bush for going into Iraq. I wont because it would be un-American for me to not point out that I think he is as deserving of Jail as half the people there right now.

Look. It is very hard to believe that this Iran mess wont be miss handled. They understand this to well.I'm afraid the people in the Middle east who mean us harm, have some idea about who their dealing with now and this is bad news.

It will be a long time before Iran can have a bomb to drop anywhere. But, it will take only a few months for this administration to completely mishandle this mess.Just watch.

I just hope the number of voters goes through the roof. It will take a number of election cycles but some day, we'll elect great men and women again and the interest of the American people will be known to be nearly the same as the interests of the rest of the world.

When a Holy war is started, the participants must hold true to their ideology. I say we should not play that game. We should stay home and start closing the door.{I've been saying this for YEARS!} If Iran makes a violent move? OK, then?good bye to Iran perhaps but, the mess we have now? forget it. Mr. Bush has put us in the worst possible situation. Talk about someone who could give a shit about the Home team.

JI.....................................................
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2006, 10:05:42 pm »

george bush is the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time

thanks, voters!

lao tse said this a long long time ago:

"the only people who should be politicians are the ones who don't want to be"

the only way we can keep peace is to open our borders (psychoanalytically, our hearts) to strangers

don't forget that nationalism is one half of nazism (national socialism)



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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2006, 07:59:25 am »

malice wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 12:41

rankus wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 19:10



With all due respect Malice, there would be no France if it weren't for the United States... It may be that they (we) are war mongers, but at least they are on YOUR side.




Hey,


This last comment was so much tongue in cheek that one side of my face is blue right now.

I'm genuinely concerned by this article Brad posted.

Lemme ask all of you : "If Bush nuke Iran right now, what would be your reaction ?"

Simple question, simple problem, simple answer awaited ...



malice



Ivan, nice last post brough.

Full time job and recording and mixing...fukk..don't have time to think or study the whole thread...

Malice,

The Texas hat rack cannot nuke Iran, it would be the U.S.

And we're not going to.

Your Frenchie guy there said something about nuking them too.

Your earlier post about this asshole fukkstain from Iran being a direct result of our foreign policy doesn't sit so well.

We had these discussions before and I think it's great to talk about it some more because I learn more here and expand my views rather than trying to digest the pap from Journalism majors....what interesting people.....and the people who make their livings from reacting to that pap are even more boring.

Wanting to nuke Israel and burn all of the men, women and children alive because of their race (or rather religion) has nothing to do with the Texas hat rack or Exxon.

I apologize for the lack of effort on my part to engage you to level which you deserve but I wanted to get a shot off to show my interest.

BTW...

Hope to meet you at the Paris AES...will you be there?

lemme nough

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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2006, 11:38:11 am »

Terrorists like to hide behind the apron strings of their innocent masses.  Ferreting them out has proved to me next to impossible.  Perhaps by nuking a nation they will give up their terrorists or else they can be victims of genocide.  That works for me.  Wanting to kill people for their beliefs means we have to kill them first.  I really don't see another alternative.  Pussy talk to try to convince them otherwise will just get you ridiculed right before they put a bullet or bomb in your pacifist ass.

It's clobberin time.
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2006, 01:50:32 pm »

Die BREMSSPUR wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 13:59



BTW...

Hope to meet you at the Paris AES...will you be there?

lemme nough

tik




Well, I'm working hard on my planning to meet you all there.

That makes me think I should take care of those invites by now...

I let you know

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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2006, 04:46:21 pm »

danickstr wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 10:38

Terrorists like to hide behind the apron strings of their innocent masses.  Ferreting them out has proved to me next to impossible.  Perhaps by nuking a nation they will give up their terrorists or else they can be victims of genocide.  That works for me.  Wanting to kill people for their beliefs means we have to kill them first.  I really don't see another alternative.  Pussy talk to try to convince them otherwise will just get you ridiculed right before they put a bullet or bomb in your pacifist ass.

It's clobberin time.


Well, I could write for a week straight about why your post:
#1, Scares the hell out of me and
#2, Is proof that we are not thinking clearly.

Terrorists Do indeed hide behind their Masses. This makes it very hard to find them. The more important point though is, who are they. Why does a 12 year old boy grow up 4 years later to believe we are evil and Blowing himself up is the answer AND excepted by God him self? You can drop all the Nukes you want and still not have the answer to that question.

Some people, Like "The Texas Hat Rack" {I love that one}, Think the reason the young boy blows himself up is because he Hates Freedom. Or, at least his parents hate freedom.Who could believe that something so completely retarded could come from the mouth of an American President? Yikes.

Think about Poverty for a moment. Think about what it's done right here in our own country. Think about our inner city poverty and the violence it generates.Think about the young 12 year old boy who in 4 years will be selling Blow and packin' a "9" because there aint nothin' else to do. Is he dealin' and killin' because he hates freedom too?

I understand that the two are different but, consider this,,

When you mix Poverty that turns into desperation with bad religion, and some big plastic ugly "POWER" is poking around at your country and you are told they are "infidels", WHY these people become terrorists is, still somewhat a mystery but, it does shed some light on who they are..

You can go right ahead and blow this and that up all you want. You wont change nothin' except, we'll be at war for ever then. Which, some want because their mean and stupid. But Me? I'm not stupid. I don't want the kid in Iran to hate me. I don't want any of this, "I'm better" or,,, the one I love,, when your talking to someone, just generally talking and they feel it necessary to qualify,,," Well, I'm a Christian" as if this now makes them, I don't know what, "better".

It's all so ugly that millions of Americans who can barely read think they know who God is and that the bad people, "HATE FREEDOM".

Be afraid. Be very very Afraid.

JI...........................................
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2006, 06:04:40 pm »

John,

I think you may just have enough neocon in you but with a different twist....

lol...

Dude, poverty don't make no mutha fukka sell....

Bein' a fukkstain is universal, rich or poor.

You're not turning into an apologist on us are ya?

Being poor and carrying a "9" IMO is unrelated.

So is being from a shithole and blowing urself up.

If it has so much to do with our foreign policy  "MALICE"  then why the fukk are the Sunnis suicide bombing the Shia....HUH????

Mr. French Smarty Pants....

(answer)

THEY'RE FUKKEN CRAZY!!!!

Don't get me wrong...most of them are not crazy...well I have seen some crazy mother fukkers over there but most are more concerned about their chilrens and their crib.

Oh yeah,

Put me in the non-nuke category and pass the pistachios...

Love yas..

tik
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2006, 06:17:48 pm »

OK sorry one last thing on the nuke thang....

Geez!!!

SCHWOOO....

First of all Noone is going to nuke anyone...but...

If you are going around repeating that you don't care about the "enemy".....just stop and think....


really....


So..


Well I guess that's it then.  I just got back from picking up an air conditioner to replace the one in the boys room because it went haywire.  I took the Suburban downtown to pick it up.  While I was there I ran into Ramy whose brother just got a job in Kuwait and will be working for a British company providing logistics from Eastern Europe.  I also picked up an aquarium for the boys to put their turtles in because the one they have is too small.  Jasmin gets back from New York next week since her time at university is over and I want to have her room done before she gets back.  She will probably get an apartment in town if I put too much work into her room.  Oh yeah I was going to stop and get some olives from my cousin but.....


































FUKKEN NICK FUKKEN NUKED ME, AND MELTED OUR TOWN!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2006, 06:25:50 pm »

Good grief! Enough about the apologist thing. I'm pointing out that things are not what they seem sometimes. People are not all nut's "just because". There is something going ON that makes them nuts. I don't blame our foreign policy as the cause for their Ideology at all. Nor do I excuse their behaviour.

I'm saying that, things being what they are, we have handled that part of the world badly.

I live in a city and have lived in many. Poverty and lack of education is, with out any doubt, the cause of all this trouble.

People don't join gangs just because they are "bad People" when they are born. Something has to happen to them.

Look, I clearly have no answers. But I don't understand why so many folks refuse to look at our very own actions.It's NOT just that they are crazy. Something makes them crazy and we still decide to do business with them. Who's crazy? FUCK, we are all crazy!!

OMG, I've turned the corner! I'm nut's Surprised  Shocked
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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2006, 06:53:38 pm »

John Ivan wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 18:25


I'm saying that, things being what they are, we have handled that part of the world badly.

Look, I clearly have no answers. But I don't understand why so many folks refuse to look at our very own actions.



Badly. Yes. With kid gloves. Time to turn, and burn. (Or at least posture them into shitting their pants)

Their actions are just that; actions, not reactions. This shit is not about anything we have done, it's improper aggression, toward civilization, period.

This isn't the first time the enemy has been as much within, as without.

Bring it on. I'd rather deal with them yesterday, than next week.


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Re: Oh boy, here we go... (Nuclear Iran)
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2006, 07:09:35 pm »

/0 wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 17:53

John Ivan wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 18:25


I'm saying that, things being what they are, we have handled that part of the world badly.

Look, I clearly have no answers. But I don't understand why so many folks refuse to look at our very own actions.



Badly. Yes. With kid gloves. Time to turn, and burn. (Or at least posture them into shitting their pants)

Their actions are just that; actions, not reactions. This shit is not about anything we have done, it's improper aggression, toward civilization, period.

This isn't the first time the enemy has been as much within, as without.

Bring it on. I'd rather deal with them yesterday, than next week.


M



Actually I believe it was Sun Tzu who said,

"better to evade the day before yesterday, than knowing your enemies before tomorrow."

"Tuesday, of course, is right out"
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