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stuntbutt

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Thoughts on Cue
« on: February 23, 2006, 07:20:46 pm »

I am very interested to know Steve's thoughts on cue systems.  Multi-channel phones, everyone on the same stereo cue, speakers?  What methods do you think work best?

Thank you so much for sharing.

John
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2006, 04:14:48 pm »

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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2006, 07:40:11 pm »


When I was at Electrical a few years ago they had the less- expensive Furman "self- mixing system."
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 11:28:31 am »

Giving bands as many options for themselves makes your life a lot easier.  As long as you can explain to them how to use the damn things, personal headphones boxes make life simpler.

I have been using the Furmann HR -6 (6 inputs - 4 mono, 1 stereo) models for 10 years, and the cost to headache value is amazing!

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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 01:04:09 pm »

i have found the same.

the basic furman system provides a nice balance between just sending a stereo mix...and each member having full control of the mix.

i find with 90% of the projects i do...a solid stereo mix...with the ability for the musicians to add a bit more of 4 other sources...usually works great.

often times, i've used larger systems..and while they are certainly really nice...most musicians who do not do studio work all the time often get overwhelmed and spend more time playing with the knobs than concentrating on a part.

the only other system i've been curious about is the hearback rig.  i do find that often i wish i could have just 2 more inputs when i am tracking a larger band.  most of my work consists of bands tracking live together.

so...stereo mix.
drum mix (mono...with mostly kick.snare.hat)
bass gtr
gtr 1
gtr 2
keys
vox
clik (if used....or additional instruments)

this would be ideal for me.

i find that most musicians don't care about having total control over the individual mics on a kit....

they just want it to sound good.  and often...loud.

anyone have experience with the hearback system ?

best,

jchristopherhughes
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 01:05:46 pm »

ps.

john-john....is that you ?  (stuntbutt)

best,

jch
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 02:45:55 pm »

We had the smaller Furman system here for years in Studio A, and still have it now moved into our Studio B

But recently we got the larger Furman 16 system for A...man, what a huge difference.

It is so much better.
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2010, 06:03:46 pm »

compasspnt wrote on Mon, 29 March 2010 11:45

We had the smaller Furman system here for years in Studio A, and still have it now moved into our Studio B

But recently we got the larger Furman 16 system for A...man, what a huge difference.

It is so much better.




I used to work at a place that had the small Furman system.  I could just never fully get what I felt the players needed on the pots--not quite enough flexibility.  And I don't know if they had it set up wrong, but the thing had no headroom--it would distort at just slightly above normal levels.  In my [limited] experience with it, the big system seems MUCH better: more flexible and a lot more guts headroom-wise.  Mytek Private Q is also good in both flexibility and headroom.  
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 10:05:54 am »

maarvold wrote on Mon, 29 March 2010 17:03


I used to work at a place that had the small Furman system.  I could just never fully get what I felt the players needed on the pots--not quite enough flexibility.  And I don't know if they had it set up wrong, but the thing had no headroom--it would distort at just slightly above normal levels.  In my [limited] experience with it, the big system seems MUCH better: more flexible and a lot more guts headroom-wise...



This is also my experience. I track a lot of really loud bands, and could never get the level I needed out of it. No headroom at all. Plus, those cat5/RJ-45 connections are a total disaster. The connectors were constantly breaking. As gear that will typically see a lot of hours on duty, it could really use something more robust for the connections.

ugh.


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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2010, 12:43:12 pm »

cat 5 is pretty tough to beat as far as what it can offer in signal distribution and bandwidth.  the connectors do indeed suck for what we do.  neutrik "ethercon" connectors should be standard for all pro audio/studio gear that requires the use of CAT 5.


BTW, we use the small furman here.  haven't had a complaint yet.
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 08:53:47 pm »

j.hall wrote on Tue, 30 March 2010 12:43

BTW, we use the small furman here.  haven't had a complaint yet.



Unless you let them use the big one, and then go back...
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2010, 01:19:11 am »

compasspnt wrote on Tue, 30 March 2010 20:53

j.hall wrote on Tue, 30 March 2010 12:43

BTW, we use the small furman here.  haven't had a complaint yet.



Unless you let them use the big one, and then go back...



Just did a session on the big one. LOVED.

The talkback on every mixer is what sold me.
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2010, 07:09:01 pm »

I've been using the small Furman system since 2000 & while I loathe the Cat5 connectors (which break easily), the system works well as long as you label correctly & "educate" your clients constantly on how to use it. No headroom issues. I'd love to graduate to the bigger Furman system, but as I mostly mix these days, I can't justify the expense.

Best- Brad
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2010, 09:53:44 pm »

talk back on every box?????!!!!!!

i'm sold!

although, drums and acoustic guitars are the only thing on the other side of the glass.  so communication is pretty simple.
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Re: Thoughts on Cue
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2010, 11:21:19 pm »

j.hall wrote on Wed, 31 March 2010 21:53

talk back on every box?????!!!!!!

i'm sold!

although, drums and acoustic guitars are the only thing on the other side of the glass.  so communication is pretty simple.



Even cooler the "brain" unit sums them all to one line level output.
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