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starscream2010

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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2006, 04:46:14 pm »

I'm down... I just want to make sure that I'm tuning the thing the 'right way'... so should the last 4 strings (D,G,B & e) be tuned down as opposed to up?
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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2006, 04:51:12 pm »

j.hall wrote on Wed, 22 February 2006 13:40

stop being a bunch of cry babies.  we already agreed that if you can't hang, you can dial it up a step.  that will get you D on your low E string.

don't you guys listen to kyuss?

that's A




I rarely take time out from listening to my pan flute box set.

Oh wait... are they that one band that sounds all muddy and stuff?
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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2006, 04:55:01 pm »

pg666 wrote on Wed, 22 February 2006 13:45

7 string kits are great for this stuff without having to adjust yer geetar... and you know you're gonna need that extra high E at some point

edit: how did i miss the mooninites until now??


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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2006, 04:58:11 pm »

starscream2010 wrote on Wed, 22 February 2006 14:46

I'm down... I just want to make sure that I'm tuning the thing the 'right way'... so should the last 4 strings (D,G,B & e) be tuned down as opposed to up?


I'm down too, just wanted to make sure I understood correctly...I guess I'm going to have to find me some big johnson strings though...
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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #49 on: February 22, 2006, 05:02:44 pm »

Bivouac wrote on Wed, 22 February 2006 15:58

 
I guess I'm going to have to find me some big johnson strings though...



No doubt... I dunno, if 10-.52 will be heavy of enough...
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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2006, 05:40:30 pm »

where is craig?

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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2006, 06:30:43 pm »

starscream2010 wrote on Wed, 22 February 2006 17:02

Bivouac wrote on Wed, 22 February 2006 15:58

 
I guess I'm going to have to find me some big johnson strings though...



No doubt... I dunno, if 10-.52 will be heavy of enough...


depends on how hard you play.
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Re: I.M.P 4 discussion.
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2006, 06:47:13 pm »

j.hall wrote on Wed, 22 February 2006 16:40

stop being a bunch of cry babies.  We already agreed that if you can't hang, you can dial it up a step.  that will get you D on your low E string.


Before I bitch, I'll quote one of my old bosses favorites:


"You want sympathy?  Look it up.  
It's in the dictionary between shit and syphilis!"




That said, here's my bucket 'o' bitches:

1) Tuning the Low string up to a D (a full step up from the suggested tuning) would mean taking the high B & E up 6 half steps to keep the intervals the same.  That's pretty darn tight!  I didn't think about a tuning that couldn't really be moved.

2) All my guitars are set up with 9's or 10's.  I'd have to cut a new nut to string up w/12's and I'm too lazy for that.

3) This tuning does not sound like a chord to me when played open which means it won't lend itself easily to slide.  My idea of an open tuning is something that facilitates slide.  This tuning's main purpose (from the few minutes I spent with it last night) is to make playing the guitar harder!

Yes I know, .....  that's the whole point, try something new!

I'll do it.


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Hmmmm ... What if I pull a Keith Richards and throw the low string in the trash and just string up the top 5?  I could get those 5 to work a step lower than suggested.  (Or not play the bottom string and not tell anyone I didn't tune it down to B).  Hmmmm.....

or....

Is it okay if I use a lighter string than normal for the low string and take it up instead of down.

hmmm........













If I see Craig, I'm gonna get him real drunk and put his sorry arse on a plane to a 3rd world country where there is no alcohol and where they are REAL intolerant of free thinking musician types for suggesting this tuning!
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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2006, 09:13:52 pm »

Hmm... after fiddling with it for a bit, I'm wondering if the first three notes should (or could) be switched.... maybe craig remembered it wrong?  Or maybe he's just sadistic.  

(high to low)

G# D# A# D# G C

becomes...

D# A# G# D# G C

... which is easy to set up, without changing any strings. Working from the bottom up, which is how my brain works and how I usually tune up...

E drops down two steps to C
A drops down one step to G
D goes up a half step to D#
G goes up a half step to G#
B goes down a half step to A#
E goes down a half step to D#

I strummed around in this for a bit, and I think I could work with it.

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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2006, 01:11:07 pm »

ok, FINE!!!!!!!!!!!

we're changing it.

i'm not a trained guitar player.

ya'll need to help me with the tuning thing.  if it ain't drop D or DADGAD i'm lost.

HURRY UP and get some some ideas.  don't give me "minor 7th tunings are cool"

just post the six notes you want

i personally couldn't care less what the tuning is, as long as my high e doesn't snap and poke my eye out, i'll be cool.
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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2006, 01:18:20 pm »

j.hall wrote on Thu, 23 February 2006 10:11

 
"minor 7th tunings are cool"



Simple...

EGDGBD

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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2006, 02:05:14 pm »

j.hall wrote on Thu, 23 February 2006 13:11


just post the six notes you want



D# A# G# D# G C

We can't change now, I already got my tune half written.   Oh, and make sure your drums fit what I wrote.

Major 7th tunings are boss.
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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2006, 03:23:49 pm »

j.hall wrote on Wed, 22 February 2006 16:40

where is craig?





Oh fuck, I missed two whole pages of discussion here. Sorry folks, I've been holed up in the studio.


I meant it to be low to high. So yes, the low E string would be tuned waaaaay down there to a G#.

To clarify:

low_________high

E--A--D--G--B--E - standard

G#-D#-A#-D#-G--C - fancy




It is quite low.

It is not impossible.

It will be easier with heavy strings.

I'm using this tuning with 11's or 12's right now, depending on the guitar. Works fine.



-craig






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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2006, 03:27:24 pm »

awesome.

it's a lock.

BRING ON ZE DRUMS!
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Re: I.M.P 4 discusion.
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2006, 06:01:41 pm »

i'm waiting for more people to chime in.  there is little point going with craig's tuning if every one is going to hate it!
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