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[Dave Cooper]

Maybe they are all using the same kick drum sample?

[Fenris Wulf]

lagerfeldt wrote on Sat, 11 February 2006 13:32

Let me clarify: I'm talking about analyzing a file in the DAW using Waves PAZ, which I reckon is a pretty accurate tool.

Nope. Worst analyzer I've ever seen. The display is pretty much unuseable.

[lagerfeldt]

How so..

You can both zoom and move around on the display, so you can see details.

You can also do a print out of the frequencies.

I haven't found any reason not to trust the PAZ.

[UnderTow]

Maybe you just like music in G.  

And I would agree that PAZ isn't a very good analyzer. It isn't very precise graphicaly. Admitedly you can zoom in but still ...

UnderTow

[bblackwood]

Dave Cooper wrote on Sun, 12 February 2006 15:14

Maybe they are all using the same kick drum sample?

Haha, that's probably the most logical answer so far...

[lagerfeldt]

Nice one  

[Pingu]

Fenris Wulf. wrote on Mon, 13 February 2006 06:59

lagerfeldt wrote on Sat, 11 February 2006 13:32 Let me clarify: I'm talking about analyzing a file in the DAW using Waves PAZ, which I reckon is a pretty accurate tool. Nope. Worst analyzer I've ever seen. The display is pretty much unuseable.

I hate PAZ

[Jerry Tubb]

lagerfeldt wrote on Sun, 12 February 2006 17:03

How so.. You can both zoom and move around on the display, so you can see details. You can also do a print out of the frequencies. I haven't found any reason not to trust the PAZ.

I Agree... the PAZ is very good ! There may be better ones... with multicolored 3D holographic displays...  

On the PAZ the LF resolution can be a little vague, with 10Hz resolution at best.

I think we all agree that the best analyzers are mounted on each side of our heads,  hopefully the grey matter that's between them, and of course aural memory. And that any visual analyzer should be used sparingly and not as a crutch.

Didn't we go thru all this on a recent thread already?

Cheers

p.s. I still like my tuning fork as a pitch reference.

[lagerfeldt]

Jerry Tubb wrote on Mon, 13 February 2006 02:20

I think we all agree that the best analyzers are mounted on each side of our heads,  hopefully the grey matter that's between them, and of course aural memory. And that any visual analyzer should be used sparingly and not as a crutch. Didn't we go thru all this on a recent thread already?

Preaching to the choir Jerry

[Jerry Tubb]

lagerfeldt wrote on Sun, 12 February 2006 19:22

Preaching to the choir Jerry

Ooops! Sorry, I'll step down from the soapbox now... old habits, hard to break.

Best Regards

p.s. did you have the LF resolution set to 10Hz or 20 or 40 on your recent analysis?

[lagerfeldt]

10Hz, why?

[resolectric]

mikepecchio wrote on Sat, 11 February 2006 06:50

are you using an analyzer to spot those frequencies?  could be the resolution of your analyzer.  FFT is most coarse at low freqs. try creating a tone sweep of constant amplitude (a bass drop) and see if it apears to peak at those frequencies.

This seemed to be a good idea and went unnoticed in this thread, i guess.
Why don't you do what mikepecchio suggested?

[Thomas W. Bethel]

A lot of rock albums come in for mastering with lots of bass at 60 Hz I guess it is to make the hum louder (more of that analog sound everyone is looking for) Hip hop and Reggae 80 and 120 Hz. For some reason lots of stuff is coming in with really low frequencies (below 20 Hz) I am guessing air conditioning rumble or excavations near the studio. Saw a good one the other day with really nice comb filtering happening. The vocals were recorded in the bathroom with an omni microphone (WHY?). I also got one with a 10 db boost at 100 Hz and 10 KHz (the salesman at GC told my client that all the really top engineers use these frequencies but it is a closely guarded secret) (oh well the cats out of the bag now)

I think the other answers are correct. It is musically related.

[masterhse]

Aren't those frequencies part of the universal "good sounding curve" used by software like Har-Bal?  

[SirDonut]

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 13 February 2006 15:11

I also got one with a 10 db boost at 100 Hz and 10 KHz (the salesman at GC told my client that all the really top engineers use these frequencies but it is a closely guarded secret)