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ALLEN WRENCH

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The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« on: January 27, 2006, 11:22:20 pm »

The argument of “What’s better, Analog or workstation?” seems to be endless and I really never care if I see another thread on this topic.  But in this particular thread, lets just say that, theoretically, digital HAS won out and is the superior format.

Now in the category of ROCK… what’s the best single song, songs OR record you’ve ever heard that’s been recorded on ANY type of workstation.  
I’m interested in distorted ROCK guitars and acoustic ROCK drums.

THIS IS NOT A TRICK.  I’m NOT going to come back and say… “SEE!  It’s NOT as good as... [SOME SONG] from [SOME YEAR]!"

I simply would like to know what is possible to achieve on a DAW by the BEST of the BEST.  I’m just doing some listening research for my own purposes and would like to know what all you engineers and producers with the advanced EARS think the best digital rock is.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated… and if you HAVE to deviate from the rock category, that’s OK.

Please name the song, artist and record.  I’m planning on buying them to listen to for a while.


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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2006, 07:51:34 pm »

Im pretty sure Symphony X did there albums digital.

Pretty compressed but it gets ya rockin.

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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2006, 08:23:01 pm »

Wow... I'm not for SURE these are digital, but I think they were.  With that disclaimer, I'll list a few of my favorites.

Little Feat - from "Let It Roll" on, sound damned good.
Aerosmith - Some of that stuff sounds good.
Toy Matinee - Ooops! That's analog!

I'll try and think of some more...

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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2006, 02:28:49 pm »

Greg Youngman wrote on Sun, 29 January 2006 01:23

Wow... I'm not for SURE these are digital, but I think they were.  With that disclaimer, I'll list a few of my favorites.

Little Feat - from "Let It Roll" on, sound damned good.
Aerosmith - Some of that stuff sounds good.
Toy Matinee - Ooops! That's analog!

I'll try and think of some more...





YEAH buddy - always a thrill to see someone spread the word about the late great Kevin Gilbert (Toy Matinee). The songwriting/engineering/performances on this release never grow tiring to these ears.
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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2006, 08:06:52 am »

for rock, I don't think it's possible to get the same live feel effect as you do on tape.

I'd like to be proven wrong with an example.
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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2006, 11:31:16 am »

maxdimario wrote on Mon, 30 January 2006 08:06

for rock, I don't think it's possible to get the same live feel effect as you do on tape.

I'd like to be proven wrong with an example.



Prove it to your self Max. Can you listen to any cd and automatically know if it's recorded digital or analog?
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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2006, 12:29:52 pm »

My experience has been that it's very easy to over-process well played electric guitars and kill the vibe. It's also my experience that this isn't an analog or digital thing although converter quality matters big-time the moment you begin applying signal processing.

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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2006, 01:04:24 pm »




The best rock recorded on any workstation was "Stars And Stripes Forever", recorded and mixed in Pro Tools at 16 bit, by John Sousa in 1906.  
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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2006, 02:32:23 pm »

I usually can spot the digital sound.

It's no use theorizing, where's the example?

Just one digital rock album (guitars etc.) and I will buy it tomorrow to check it out.
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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2006, 06:58:05 pm »

Ronny wrote on Mon, 30 January 2006 12:04

The best rock recorded on any workstation was "Stars And Stripes Forever", recorded and mixed in Pro Tools at 16 bit, by John Sousa in 1906.  
wasn't that a shave and a hair cut, 2 bit recording?   Laughing  Laughing
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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2006, 08:10:38 pm »

ALLEN WRENCH wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 20:22

The argument of ?What?s better, Analog or workstation?? seems to be endless and I really never care if I see another thread on this topic.  But in this particular thread, lets just say that, theoretically, digital HAS won out and is the superior format.

Now in the category of ROCK? what?s the best single song, songs OR record you?ve ever heard that?s been recorded on ANY type of workstation.  
I?m interested in distorted ROCK guitars and acoustic ROCK drums.

THIS IS NOT A TRICK.  I?m NOT going to come back and say? ?SEE!  It?s NOT as good as... [SOME SONG] from [SOME YEAR]!"

I simply would like to know what is possible to achieve on a DAW by the BEST of the BEST.  I?m just doing some listening research for my own purposes and would like to know what all you engineers and producers with the advanced EARS think the best digital rock is.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated? and if you HAVE to deviate from the rock category, that?s OK.

Please name the song, artist and record.  I?m planning on buying them to listen to for a while.


- ALLEN WRENCH -





Hi Allen,

You'll have to be a little more specific... do you mean mixed in the box?  or do you mean using the workstation just like you would a tape machine and still mixing through an analog console?  Please specify.

Technically if you are talking about mixing in the box then you aren't just comparing tape to DAW, you're comparing tape AND console to DAW and DAW mix engine.

I would have to say most albums done in the recent years have all been DAW through a console.  I don't have specific numbers... I would imagine there is some way to look that up on billboard's website.  Usually in the Magazine they list albums currently in production, who's producing them, the studio they are working out of, and the medium they are working on... the also list who mixed the album and what medium they used to mix it.  I'm not sure where it would be on the Billboard site but there might be a way to search for that...

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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2006, 12:53:16 pm »

minister wrote on Mon, 30 January 2006 17:58

wasn't that a shave and a hair cut, 2 bit recording?   Laughing  Laughing


My nominee for "post of the year."

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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2006, 12:54:32 pm »


I second that nomination.
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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2006, 11:47:04 pm »

OK, this is exactly what I DID NOT want to happen with this thread.  I don’t care if it’s all IN-THE-BOX, with an SSL, 16 bit PT, 64bit Cakewalk, ADAT’s and Mackies, Logic and a HUI, what ever.  

Really guys… use all the OTHER threads for all the dumb discussions regarding anything other than NAMING a song or two that was tracked with converters.  ANY DAW used in ANY way… EXCEPT tracking on tape and then digitizing.

I’m looking to put together some songs to hear what’s POSSIBLE to do with the digital format.  Although it may NOT BE possible to do good rock drums on digital, I’d like to hear the best that's been done so far.

With all the experts here, you’d think a few of you guys would be able to name off a few good rock songs tracked with converters.

Stop your talkin, start your rockin.


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Re: The BEST rock recorded on ANY workstation
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2006, 03:18:02 am »

Since you got mad at us im not contributing anymore.







































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