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j.hall

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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2006, 05:22:56 PM »

jimmyjazz wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 15:43


What crawled up your ass?



mild forms of trolling, to blantant trolling, which happen to be against R/E/P policies, and it sure seems that steve spends a large portion of his time trying to re-clarify the same exact point.

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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2006, 05:43:07 PM »

j.hall wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 14:22

jimmyjazz wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 15:43


What crawled up your ass?



mild forms of trolling, to blantant trolling, which happen to be against R/E/P policies, and it sure seems that steve spends a large portion of his time trying to re-clarify the same exact point.





I agree.. I was delighted to see that Steve had a forum.  But wading through all the bullshit is getting tedious....

Lets try to discuss RECORDING ....
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2006, 07:11:14 PM »

j.hall wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 17:22

jimmyjazz wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 15:43


What crawled up your ass?



mild forms of trolling, to blantant trolling, which happen to be against R/E/P policies, and it sure seems that steve spends a large portion of his time trying to re-clarify the same exact point.





It's hell, JH, when they ask an expert for their opinion or tips and techniques and than argue with them about it.


Hey, posters that are dissing techniques and procedure, if you know so much why aren't you answering questions instead of asking them. Albini's techniques are subjective because we are all different, but he gets good results, so if you are going to take his time up by asking questions, it doesn't mean you have to agree with them, but give him the respect that anyone deserves, you ain't paying for this, it's free advice.  
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2006, 10:07:03 PM »

Ronny wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 19:11


It's hell, JH, when they ask an expert for their opinion or tips and techniques and than argue with them about it.


Hey, posters that are dissing techniques and procedure, if you know so much why aren't you answering questions instead of asking them. Albini's techniques are subjective because we are all different, but he gets good results, so if you are going to take his time up by asking questions, it doesn't mean you have to agree with them, but give him the respect that anyone deserves, you ain't paying for this, it's free advice.  



Since J. Hall was "kind" enough to quote me when he decided to deride folks for asking Steve questions about his philosophy, I can only assume that he (and those who support his point of view) think I was either trolling or baiting Steve.

Nothing could be further from the truth, and I resent the implication.

I respect Steve, not only for his results but for the manner in which he consistently defends his point of view with extraordinary clarity.  I wish I was that adept at expressing myself.

So, either explain where y'all think I went astray or leave me out of this particular sub-thread.  My posts weren't intended to gig Steve in any way, shape, or form.
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2006, 12:55:20 AM »

jimmyjazz wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 21:07


Since J. Hall was "kind" enough to quote me when he decided to deride folks for asking Steve questions about his philosophy, I can only assume that he (and those who support his point of view) think I was either trolling or baiting Steve.




honestly, quoting you was actually a mistake, which sort of explains my confusion as to why you got so defensive.

steve has had to deal with more trolling then i've ever seen on REP.  i think it sucks that he's as busy as he is, and then he has to come here and deal with trolling.

i don't moderate this forum, however, trolling will not be allowed.  those who are on a witch hunt with steve need to cool it.
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2006, 01:28:16 AM »

j.hall wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 00:55

honestly, quoting you was actually a mistake, which sort of explains my confusion as to why you got so defensive.


OK, I can buy that.



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steve has had to deal with more trolling then i've ever seen on REP.  i think it sucks that he's as busy as he is, and then he has to come here and deal with trolling.

i don't moderate this forum, however, trolling will not be allowed.  those who are on a witch hunt with steve need to cool it.


I must be thick as a brick.  I honestly don't see much "trolling".  No doubt Steve's MO runs counter to that of most engineers, at least to some degree, but I don't think too many people here are trying to goad him into a fight.

It's his forum.  I figure he agreed to moderate it because he felt he had something to share.  I'm sure he knew that some folks wouldn't see eye to eye with him, too.  The fact that he doesn't seem nearly as bothered by this alleged behavior might be telling.
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2006, 04:56:13 AM »

For what it's worth, I don't mind anybody saying anything here. I realize that I end up repeating myself a lot, but there are always people joining the conversation late, asking the same questions, etc. Until we make using the fucking search function mandatory (UTFSF is my favorite internet acronym), that will be the case.

People picking their fights with me is such typical internet dork-jousting that it has no effect on anybody here for real discussion, and it certainly has no effect on me.

UTFSF, Carry on.
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2006, 01:10:22 PM »

electrical wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 03:56

 such typical internet dork-jousting .


'Dork' is such a great word.

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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2006, 01:12:25 PM »

electrical wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 04:56

For what it's worth, I don't mind anybody saying anything here. I realize that I end up repeating myself a lot, but there are always people joining the conversation late, asking the same questions, etc. Until we make using the fucking search function mandatory (UTFSF is my favorite internet acronym), that will be the case.

People picking their fights with me is such typical internet dork-jousting that it has no effect on anybody here for real discussion, and it certainly has no effect on me.

UTFSF, Carry on.



Internet dork-jousting

possibly the funniest thing I have read or will read for weeks.

Steve certainly seems troll-proof!
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2006, 03:39:43 PM »

jimmyjazz wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 22:07

Ronny wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 19:11


It's hell, JH, when they ask an expert for their opinion or tips and techniques and than argue with them about it.


Hey, posters that are dissing techniques and procedure, if you know so much why aren't you answering questions instead of asking them. Albini's techniques are subjective because we are all different, but he gets good results, so if you are going to take his time up by asking questions, it doesn't mean you have to agree with them, but give him the respect that anyone deserves, you ain't paying for this, it's free advice.  



Since J. Hall was "kind" enough to quote me when he decided to deride folks for asking Steve questions about his philosophy, I can only assume that he (and those who support his point of view) think I was either trolling or baiting Steve.

Nothing could be further from the truth, and I resent the implication.

I respect Steve, not only for his results but for the manner in which he consistently defends his point of view with extraordinary clarity.  I wish I was that adept at expressing myself.

So, either explain where y'all think I went astray or leave me out of this particular sub-thread.  My posts weren't intended to gig Steve in any way, shape, or form.



As JH mentioned I wasn't specifically talking about you or mentioning any names jimmyjazz, I was referring to a few threads that were deleted or should have been deleted that were nothing more than trolls wasting everyones read time. I wasn't even talking specifically about this thread, but I keep seeing people challenging Albini and him having to answer to tripe. I see it not only as a waste of his time to have him justify what he's relating after he answers a question, but the cold manner in which people are challenging what he says, when they start the thread off with a question and end it with the inquisition.
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2006, 07:05:27 PM »

Ronny wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 20:39



As JH mentioned I wasn't specifically talking about you or mentioning any names jimmyjazz, I was referring to a few threads that were deleted or should have been deleted that were nothing more than trolls wasting everyones read time. I wasn't even talking specifically about this thread, but I keep seeing people challenging Albini and him having to answer to tripe. I see it not only as a waste of his time to have him justify what he's relating after he answers a question, but the cold manner in which people are challenging what he says, when they start the thread off with a question and end it with the inquisition.



I agree.  Albini has come across really well so far but I'd much rather read new bits of knowledge than watch the guy have to cover old ground over and over.  
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2006, 10:35:47 PM »

overeasy wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 13:12

Steve certainly seems troll-proof!


Steve is a punk. If he was worried about winning a music business professionals popularity contest he wouldn'ta written "The Problem With Music" aka "Some Of Your Friends Are Probably Already This Fucked".

When you really, REALLY know what you're doing and what you want to do, it does bring a certain immunity from people randomly coming up and ordering you to want something else. It's a form of insecurity to not know what you care about, to defer to fashion. In that sense, security doesn't come from being exempt from challenges, it comes from knowing yourself.

You're known by your friends, but also by your 'enemies'. There's a lot of people out there that I wouldn't want to be anything like, same for Steve. I enjoy trying to stay very nice and polite no matter what's going on around me, but that's only another preference, and there's no reason Steve can't instead visibly gag on dreck if he sees someone uttering it (in his opinion).

Whether they in turn freak out or just shrug, tells you how secure THEY are.

If the bitching-at-Albini quotient gets too boring, no doubt something can be done about it. I'm picturing a UTFSF-forum that posts can get moved to en masse, so the people can look around at all the similar bitches and gripes and feel somehow validated Very Happy

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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2006, 12:35:37 PM »

Eric Rudd wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 13:10


'Dork' is such a great word.

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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2006, 05:42:52 PM »

Holy fucking shit.
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Re: Documentary recording vs. a band's skewed self-image
« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2006, 02:59:51 PM »

avoidinertia wrote on Thu, 02 February 2006 01:05

Ronny wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 20:39



As JH mentioned I wasn't specifically talking about you or mentioning any names jimmyjazz, I was referring to a few threads that were deleted or should have been deleted that were nothing more than trolls wasting everyones read time. I wasn't even talking specifically about this thread, but I keep seeing people challenging Albini and him having to answer to tripe. I see it not only as a waste of his time to have him justify what he's relating after he answers a question, but the cold manner in which people are challenging what he says, when they start the thread off with a question and end it with the inquisition.



I agree.  Albini has come across really well so far but I'd much rather read new bits of knowledge than watch the guy have to cover old ground over and over.  


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As with everything there are two sides.

I also enjoy watching our hero getting out of predicaments every episode....I find myself wondering how he will, "get out of this one"...and then, he does...superbly.

You can learn more than just audio shtuff....it sucks...but it's also great.

I also don't see where you have to draw the line.  I am sure I could enjoy a nice brewski with anyone here.  I also idolize a ex-mod here...doesn't mean I agree with everything he has to say....


I don't know what the fukk my post was about anymore....so...

carry on...


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