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j.hall

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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2006, 05:24:07 pm »

so far the records you guys have named fit into one of these two categories, if not both.

1.  the production crew involved was top notch seasoned pros and could make a 1" 16 track do something useful.

2.  the records' sonic qualities were manipulated to the adat sound and the vibe of the record was built around something they could not control.  equally as genius as #1, but still doesn't make adats cool, or even good.

either way, adats still suck.  if you like that brittle, thin sound, then adats are for you.  i guess i shouldn't be so surprised, lots of people like SM-57s.

and i'm backing Brad up.  his questions MUST be answered.
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2006, 05:26:38 pm »

bblackwood wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:04

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 15:53

Jagged Little Pill was going to be my refrence as well.  

Because it sounds good or because you like the songs? Or because it sold well?



ANSWER IT, SUKKA!

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That record sounds so good they made it twice. Once for MTV and a second time for Starbucks.



i have to catch my breathe............my stomach hurts.
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2006, 05:38:49 pm »

rattleyour wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:19

xonlocust wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 14:08

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 15:53

I'm Jagged Little Pill was going to be my refrence as well.   I love that record and I really do feel that it has an ADAT 'charm' to it that I think wouldn't have been there if it was tracked to 2".   Not that it wouldn't have been a good record...   the songs rule and that's why it's so great.



wait, are we talking about an alanis morrisette record here?



That record sounds so good they made it twice. Once for MTV and a second time for Starbucks.


awesome.

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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2006, 05:43:26 pm »

bblackwood wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 17:04

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 15:53

Jagged Little Pill was going to be my refrence as well.  

Because it sounds good or because you like the songs? Or because it sold well?


A radio station in my town was playing 'Hand in My Pocket' before the record dropped and before anyone new it was anything special.   I bought it shorty after it came out because I thought it sounded cool and the songs were really good.

I like Jagged Little Pill because the songs are good.

I like ADAT's because I had a good experience with them.
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2006, 05:49:24 pm »

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:43

I like Jagged Little Pill because the songs are good.

The songs wouldn't have been as good recorded to any other format?

Otherwise I'm lost as to why JLP was brought up in the discussion of ADATS...
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2006, 05:52:40 pm »

bblackwood wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:04

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 15:53

Jagged Little Pill was going to be my refrence as well.  

Because it sounds good or because you like the songs? Or because it sold well?


For me personally (not speaking for Kevin), I like the way it sounds... I think that it has a cool vibe to it and the songs are pretty good (normally this is not something I like to admit). I can't say that I've owned (or listened) to a copy of it in the last 6 years but, if I happen to be listening to the radio or riding in the car, with my wife, and one of those songs come on I don't change the station. My point was that ADAT's are usable and I kind of dig the way the sound. It's not like I'll be getting rid of my DAW anytime soon, but I still use ADAT's in a limited capacity and they don't sound half bad. That's all I got....
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2006, 05:59:48 pm »

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:43


I like Jagged Little Pill because the songs are good.



Dear Kevin The Viking,

The following letter is in review of your membership status.

We regret to inform you that your membership to Indie Rock has been revoked.  There will be no probation period, appeals will not be accepted, and future applications will not be excepted.  The council of Indie Rock and Underground Music has found you in violation of rule 143, paragraph 10.  Please turn over your membership card to the nearest office for destruction.

Indie Rock is watching!

Thank you for playing,

J.Hall
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2006, 06:09:10 pm »

j.hall wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:59

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:43


I like Jagged Little Pill because the songs are good.



Dear Kevin The Viking,

The following letter is in review of your membership status.

We regret to inform you that your membership to Indie Rock has been revoked.  There will be no probation period, appeals will not be accepted, and future applications will not be excepted.  The council of Indie Rock and Underground Music has found you in violation of rule 143, paragraph 10.  Please turn over your membership card to the nearest office for destruction.

Indie Rock is watching!

Thank you for playing,

J.Hall
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lol... that's harsh.... but funny.
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2006, 06:15:09 pm »

watch yourself evans, you maybe next...........
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2006, 06:37:28 pm »

bblackwood wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 17:49

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:43

I like Jagged Little Pill because the songs are good.

The songs wouldn't have been as good recorded to any other format?

Otherwise I'm lost as to why JLP was brought up in the discussion of ADATS...

Brad,

Not at all...   the songs are good no matter what they were recorded on.   I just think the ADAT factor added to the charm of that recording.   Good songs are good songs.   I've heard stuff tracked on four tracks, eight tracks and 16 track 1/2 inch analog that rule because the songs are solid and performed well.   Gear and media are just colors and textures used to capture sound differently.

As for my indie rock membership...   that's cool.   I'll have to go chill with the emo kids until they let me back in your camp.
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2006, 06:54:43 pm »

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 15:37

bblackwood wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 17:49

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 16:43

I like Jagged Little Pill because the songs are good.

The songs wouldn't have been as good recorded to any other format?

Otherwise I'm lost as to why JLP was brought up in the discussion of ADATS...

Brad,

Not at all...   the songs are good no matter what they were recorded on.   I just think the ADAT factor added to the charm of that recording.   Good songs are good songs.   I've heard stuff tracked on four tracks, eight tracks and 16 track 1/2 inch analog that rule because the songs are solid and performed well.   Gear and media are just colors and textures used to capture sound differently.

As for my indie rock membership...   that's cool.   I'll have to go chill with the emo kids until they let me back in your camp.


Try not to hurt their feelings, Kev.
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2006, 08:15:02 pm »

i was just getting into recording seriously when ADATs started disappearing. i wish i could completely blame it for my old band's records sounding pretty nasally and nasty, but...

if, however, in 5 years we're having a discussion about the 'charms' of the HD-24, fists is a gonna fly.  Twisted Evil

(p.s. i like 1" 16 track. i'd take it over 95% of digital, personally)
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2006, 08:38:59 pm »

j.hall wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 17:15

watch yourself evans, you maybe next...........



Aye, Cap'n... I know the drill, swab the deck or walk the plank and it will be Davey Jone's locker for me....
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2006, 05:15:27 am »

for every two ADATs you're using, you need a third as a backup for when one of the first two go down...I don't miss my ADATs at all...

I think all the On stuff sounds better than Fantastic Planet.
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Re: the dreaded 32 track adat transfer
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2006, 08:35:39 am »

TheViking wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 17:37

Not at all...   the songs are good no matter what they were recorded on.

Good, we're on the same page there...

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I just think the ADAT factor added to the charm of that recording.  

Woah! Now you lost me...
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