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Title: Telefunken VF14: Saturn Sound's Replacement Idea
Post by: davebl on July 27, 2010, 03:43:42 am
  http://www.saturn-sound.com/products/replacement%20valve.htm

Any views on this VF14 replacement. I have good but unsubstantiated reports of it, does any one have a first and unbiased view please ?

thanks,

Dave
Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: J.J. Blair on July 27, 2010, 01:03:08 pm
There's already a thread about this, I think.  See if search turns it up for you.
Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: bob ebeling on July 31, 2010, 02:43:53 am
The guy has a freakishly bad customer service reputation...plus other horror stories.  
Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: Phil Mayor on July 31, 2010, 04:35:11 pm
I've a couple of friends who I showed this RV14M to, but they could never ever get a response from him despite numerous emails, messages left on his answerphone. I too have found him to be virtually uncontactable.
Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: bob ebeling on July 31, 2010, 06:05:03 pm
I too never recieved any reply to simple information requests and inquiries about equipment posted for sale.
Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: Barry Hufker on July 31, 2010, 07:11:51 pm
I once wrote him about a pair of Neumann KM56s he had for sale.  I received a very nice and prompt reply.

Barry

Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: bob ebeling on July 31, 2010, 08:33:15 pm
Yeah, I feel bad bashing the guy.  His site is great.  But his communication for me has been nil.
Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: Dusk Bennett on August 10, 2010, 01:52:35 pm
JJ, I was unable to find a thread on this after running a search on Saturn Sound and RV14M.

So, any thoughts? Question still stands.
Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: Phil Mayor on August 10, 2010, 03:36:46 pm
Here: http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/12488/0/0/ 5330/
Title: Re: Saturn Sound, Missing Link, RV14M
Post by: Dusk Bennett on August 12, 2010, 12:54:22 pm
Thanks for the link. Quite a contentious thread there. Glad I was out of the kitchen for that battle.
Title: Re: Telefunken VF14: Saturn Sound's Replacement Idea
Post by: Nick Sevilla on September 03, 2010, 11:20:24 am
On another note...

I have a U47 with Andreas Grosser's solid state VF14 direct plug in replacement.

I like it.

Does that make me evil? No.

Does it make me an ignoramus? No.

I also own one with the VF14...

Both mics do not sound the same, but the A.G. does deliver the correct performance to be close enough to my ears.

Something to consider, I guess : one day there will not be almost any correctly functioning VF14 tubes.

Cheers
Title: Re: Telefunken VF14: Saturn Sound's Replacement Idea
Post by: Klaus Heyne on September 03, 2010, 11:35:17 am
Is Grosser's tube-replacement plug and play? If so, I will have him send me one, and try it out.
Title: Re: Telefunken VF14: Saturn Sound's Replacement Idea
Post by: Nick Sevilla on September 03, 2010, 11:49:00 am
Klaus Heyne wrote on Fri, 03 September 2010 08:35

Is Grosser's tube-replacement plug and play? If so, I will have him send me one, and try it out.


Yes it is.

My technician calibrated the power supply for a VF14 tube, and recommended I try this one, since getting a good VF14 nowadays is really really hard.

I definitely want to read on your impressions on this replacement as well.

Cheers
Title: Re: Telefunken VF14: Saturn Sound's Replacement Idea
Post by: Dusk Bennett on December 27, 2010, 08:24:32 pm
waiting for results?
Title: Re: Telefunken VF14: Saturn Sound's Replacement Idea
Post by: Klaus Heyne on December 28, 2010, 02:28:51 am
Thanks for reminding me to place another request.
Title: Re: Telefunken VF14: Saturn Sound's Replacement Idea
Post by: J.J. Blair on December 28, 2010, 08:41:09 pm
I had a dream last night, where I was telling Dave Amels that Anamod should do a VF14 replacement.  True story.

edit for clarification:
Dave Amels is a brilliant programmer, designer, musician, engineer, etc.  His company, Anamod, makes gear that does "analogue modeling."  He designs analog circuits that model and mimic gear which is no longer produced.  

I wonder if it is possible for him to make a circuit that could be used in place of a VF14.  As I said, it was a dream I had.  the interesting thing is that I dreamed of asking somebody to make a possible substitute for the tube, and not remake the tube!  I suppose this means I'm past the first stage of grieving: Denial.